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AE-NMidlands
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Re: Hi from Worthing

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Hello
How old are the roof tiles? With that dog's breakfast I would certainly consider rebuilding it to simplify it, even if the same tiles went back on.

We inherited a crap clay tile roof 45 years ago, all shaling and filling the cast iron gutters with razor-blade-like shards, so the gutters rotted too! We had it re-roofed with concrete tiles... which are now life-expired. So it's just ready to have an in-roof solar pv set up fitted, and luckily we have 3 very simple E, S and W facing planes.
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Tay
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Re: Hi from Worthing

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Mr Gus wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 8:52 am Our collection is 1x per fortnight for each bin variant.

This started when the kid was small, in nappies, prior to that it was weekly one jumble of crap in one bin.

Some moan 3 is too many (thats sorting for you, better with it than without) we have a Londoners landfill just down the road (awful) ..nappies in bins are no different to incontinence pads (home visit nurses) just bigger, modt folk dealing with that have the one bin for general waste & cope ok, so if you are having intermittent visits then just bag them well, squeeze the rancid air out, bin & sprinkle a deodoriser, no problem unless its a transit van 14 seater full of toddlers.

The lid is pretty good at keeping stuff both in & out if its a standard issue council wheelie bin

Flies? make a bottle trap & activate some yeast in water as the attractant, ..its what we have to do to offset the flies from that nearby tip, catches thousands (no joke)

A neighbour has 2 babies one just getting out of nappies, dog, 1 bin, no problem, we even when there were 3 of us, & dogs, put the refuse bin out every 6 weeks sometimes just to get it emptied, ..

Are the bins not the normal size?
Buy one on ebay? sometimes the shed diy have them for £20 too, most councils post out replacement sticker sets as required, so stealth option?
The general is tiny maybe a 3rd of the size or less, the recycle and garden waste (which I pay extra for - another story!!) are the same size.

The general small bin is fine for just wife, myself and the poo factory called Dexter (My Weimaraner dog) and we recycle a lot, waste little so it really isnt a case of taking the pee with it, just some officious jobs worth. I dont understand the problem, its not as if we'll start to take nearby counties waste and stick it our bin. Its just there when I need it.

The answer is just to buy another I think and be done with it.
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Re: Hi from Worthing

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AE-NMidlands wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 3:10 pm Hello
How old are the roof tiles? With that dog's breakfast I would certainly consider rebuilding it to simplify it, even if the same tiles went back on.

We inherited a crap clay tile roof 45 years ago, all shaling and filling the cast iron gutters with razor-blade-like shards, so the gutters rotted too! We had it re-roofed with concrete tiles... which are now life-expired. So it's just ready to have an in-roof solar pv set up fitted, and luckily we have 3 very simple E, S and W facing planes.
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In an ideal world I think rebuilding would be the answer, but I think with the priority of things that need doing, insulation, double glazing, its down the list and I'd like to get on the Solar power train sooner rather than later.

Oh, and one little thing I forgot to mention, the wife will not have panels on the front of the house.. this is when good ideas meet an immovable object moment, hence stuck with South and West Facing.
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Re: Hi from Worthing

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You would need to read up on the permitted development rules but I have a feeling you would be within rights to straddle those part roofs with a frame and have panels with a polyhedral aspect without exceeding the ridge or overhanging the building.
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Tay wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 3:25 pm Oh, and one little thing I forgot to mention, the wife will not have panels on the front of the house.. this is when good ideas meet an immovable object moment, hence stuck with South and West Facing.
Maybe the new roof on the front will just turn out to be black and shiny? e.g. https://energycreation.co.uk/in-roof-so ... t-article/ (random first hit for "in roof pv appearance") and - better - "Solar PV Roofs" on https://nakedsolar.co.uk/solar-pv/solar ... esthetics/
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Re: Hi from Worthing

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openspaceman wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 5:06 pm You would need to read up on the permitted development rules but I have a feeling you would be within rights to straddle those part roofs with a frame and have panels with a polyhedral aspect without exceeding the ridge or overhanging the building.
I had considered this plus it would have the benefit of keeping the conservatory a tad cooler too....at least that was the excuse to the wife..

I had put it in the might be complicated section, but now you mention it I'll have a deeper look at it. I could possibly get some meaty panels there, as the polycarbonite roof panels are 8 feet by roughly 3 and a bit feet..
As I was considering a frame over the flat roof eg\; fixing a frame to the wall then fixing at the front, then traditional rails for the panels and maybe tweak the angles a tad...as I mentioned before it would not be overlooked, perhaps little to no objections.

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Re: Hi from Worthing

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AE-NMidlands wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 5:28 pm
Tay wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 3:25 pm Oh, and one little thing I forgot to mention, the wife will not have panels on the front of the house.. this is when good ideas meet an immovable object moment, hence stuck with South and West Facing.
Maybe the new roof on the front will just turn out to be black and shiny? e.g. https://energycreation.co.uk/in-roof-so ... t-article/ (random first hit for "in roof pv appearance") and - better - "Solar PV Roofs" on https://nakedsolar.co.uk/solar-pv/solar ... esthetics/
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I read something about the in roof stuff, I think if I were to go down the 'fix the roof profile' then this would be a no brainer.. She might not be Solar aware, but she aint blind :)
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Thats a non mainstream system you got there Tay, offgrid with grid and PV charging ?
https://bluettipower.co.uk/pages/bluetti-ac300-b300

Where did you manage to put your panels in the end ?, I recall you have the roof from hell.

Is the system working out for you ?
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nowty wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:04 pm Thats a non mainstream system you got there Tay, offgrid with grid and PV charging ?
https://bluettipower.co.uk/pages/bluetti-ac300-b300

Where did you manage to put your panels in the end ?, I recall you have the roof from hell.

Is the system working out for you ?
Sorry, long read I got carried away, I'm finding the whole PV thingy very addictive after one day ^^

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To be honest I've been wrapped up with a ton of other stuff that has taken me a lot of time to sort out and more than a little stressful, no thanks to Halifax Bank (dicks!). Anyway, all sorted now and I needed some retail therapy.
I saw some refurbed Bluetti units from Bluetti themselves on eBay and saw an immediate shoe in for solar and battery power, without going down the full on PV panels on roof, invertors, charge controllers, shunts, batteries and <add rest of the stuff here>.

I don't have the roof profile (or funds) to do anything meaningful with perm solar panels at this time, the roof itself needs other work that might lend it self to changing the profile at some point but that could be some way off.

We're in the process of refreshing all the loft insulation, getting cavity insulation sorted but this has flagged up other issues such as a bridged DPC that was never flagged up during the survey many years ago, that needs to be sorted first now.

I wanted to get my foot on the Solar ladder and just purchased the Bluetti kit, my workshop/office uses roughly 100-180w continuously, sometimes more sometimes less.
I recently managed to get on a BG EV Tariff, this has allowed me to charge the B300 (3000Wh) battery at 9.4p/kWh, its a LiFePo battery and from what I've read is pretty damn good and even Will Prowse likes them. Should have a 9-10 year life span

I started simply charging the battery overnight, it draws 2.4kw from the grid to charge and is done in 1.5hrs, its managed through the firmware, it kicks in at 12:01 and shuts off at 05:00. This provides near on 95% of my office power through the day. The unit also acts as a UPS too.

Last week I bought 2 x 295w panels and some cable, the system allows parallel charging so I wanted to allow the battery to be charged/topped up during the day with solar, currently the panels are temp fitted to my pergola as per the photo below, i'll move them over the next week when I build a frame for them.

I've used my Mac heavily today and even hit the gaming rig to hammer it a bit and it made it midnight without any grid intervention. I only placed the panels around 1pm today and it was a bit cloudy then. I have them running in series as there is some limitations with the input amps, it caps out at 12A for each feed, I do have a secondary input feed but didnt have the cables to hook them up independently.

I also opted for some smaller panels to meet the input requirements and the size too. I have the option of using these panels on my south facing roof at some point , I 'think' I'd get 3 panels there, but would struggle to get anything larger there, so when fully fitted solar is an option I can use these panels.

The panels are Perlight Delta Black Mono Perc and a pretty dinky 1504x1002 size (£134+ vat) and MCS approved

This is more than suitable (weather permitting) of providing enough juice to cover the base usage in my office, giving UPS capability too for the entire day. Moving to the EV tariff will save me some £30 a month versus the variable rate, Another £1 per day (ish) saving for the office battery (we wont talk about the capital expenditure for the gear !!)

Not bad for panel just chucked on the pergola - I've got some brackets that I can fit to the pergola to jack up the angles quite a bit. But it'll only be temporary as my Clematis is growing back nicely after the wife murdered my old one and that will soon take over the rest of the pergola and wont give the panels a look in.
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Currently, the panels are cable tied to the pergola flat, please excuse the neighbours smalls out drying ^^ - I will move the panels on to the flat roof time permitting.
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Re: Hi from Worthing

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Cheers for the update, that system certainly is a bit challenged with respect to the amount of PV you can add to it, but it seems to have taken your interest immediately, so whatever gets your foot in the door is a winner.

Even with difficult roofs, you seem to have a good sized garden, a bit of cutting back the bushes and you'll find a way.

Many examples on this forum if you hunt around, these are just some examples off the top of my head.

Joeboy's got a good long thread here,
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... 2029#p2029

MrPablo's got some on his wall,
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... 579#p23474

Spread-tee's got em on flat roof and other places,
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... 110#p32844

SporranMcDonald made his own solar sunshade,
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... =30#p28625

Stinsy stuck some on his shed,
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... f=11&t=367

Caesium put them all over his rear garden,
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... =15&t=2069

Smegal made something out of unistrut in his garden, then changed his mind and put them on a roof,
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... =40#p11499

Newtoallthis made his own mount,
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... =30#p31265

Dlw built a large pergola thing in his garden,
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... =15&t=1741

And I've got them everywhere,
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... =10#p23570
15.2kW PV > 100MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 19MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 490 m3
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