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Fantasy, pure and simple.

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SWMBO & I watched The Purge last night. Reminded me of Halloween with Jamie Lee Cutris.

Anyway, fired up BBC this morning saw this and a wee pattern recog switch went click in my brain. :facepalm: :hysteria:

"Department of Government Efficiency", that gives me the heebie jeebies. Stumbled into a Phillip K Dick Novella...

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P.S, the fantasy in title is in my brain not what he is attempting.
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I have to admit to being intrigued by someone trying to slim down a bloated and wasteful public sector. Feels very much like we could do with a bit of that…

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Just to say, the name is another one of Musk's 'jokes',* as it spells out DOGE, and he supports the crypto currency DOGE coins. :facepalm:

[Edit - At least I assume that's the reason for the name, as I heard it whilst driving ion the car yesterday, and spotted what (I think) the name spells out.

*Like the university in Texas he wants to fund called the Texas Institute of Technology and Science.
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My wife did have a PT job after we moved area/children starting school etc.

She was the Deputy Information Manager - Trainee Information Technologist

;)

Will be interesting to see what Elon achieved considering all of the fixed costs within the budgets he’s trying to restructure.

I’m sure there are savings, but not to the extent he’s saying.

Doubtless he will profit from it.
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Bugtownboy wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:34 am My wife did have a PT job after we moved area/children starting school etc.

She was the Deputy Information Manager - Trainee Information Technologist

;)

Will be interesting to see what Elon achieved considering all of the fixed costs within the budgets he’s trying to restructure.

I’m sure there are savings, but not to the extent he’s saying.

Doubtless he will profit from it.
Any actual cash savings will be a long time off. Musk is talking about giving 2-years severance pay to the hundreds of thousands of government employees he's about to lay off. But maybe those employees can do something productive with the money (eg invest it or start a business) rather than passing meaningless pieces of paper to one-another pretending that is work.

Musk is angry that the US government spent $43bn on a project to provide rural broadband internet but failed to connect a single home. Every penny was absorbed by the machine. Meanwhile Musk had a product (Starlink) that could've connected every house in the country for a similar cost.

Similarly, when Musk lived in California he was critical of the high-speed rail project that spent $100bn but didn't lay a single yard of track (sound familiar to anyone on this side of the pond?).The French company that tried very hard to deliver the project abandoned it proclaiming there to be less corruption and red tape in Africa (they've since delivered a high-speed rail project in Algeria and the one in California still hasn't laid a yard of track).

More recently Musk has been highly critical of the vast bureaucracy holding back SpaceX. He has talked about needing sign-off to prove that the rocket launch won't be harmful to whales. Despite SpaceX paying for and delivering all the required research and paperwork it still takes longer to get the form back from the government department concerned than it takes for SpaceX to build the rocket.

Let us not forget that Musk fired 80% of the employees of Twitter and the service continued just fine. I know it shocked some people to find out that if you have an organisation where the HR and Marketing and PR departments vastly outnumber the engineers, and you fire the non-engineers, the company carries on just fine!

Don't get me wrong. I've never been a Musk fanboy. And I don't like Tesla cars. But I'm with him on this one.
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Stinsy wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:04 am Let us not forget that Musk fired 80% of the employees of Twitter and the service continued just fine. I know it shocked some people to find out that if you have an organisation where the HR and Marketing and PR departments vastly outnumber the engineers, and you fire the non-engineers, the company carries on just fine!

Don't get me wrong. I've never been a Musk fanboy. And I don't like Tesla cars. But I'm with him on this one.
Part of the 80% were most of the moderators that kept Twitter/X a "sane" place, including getting shot of Trump. I don't use it but from what I've gathered it is not better for his cost savings.
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Stinsy wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:04 am Any actual cash savings will be a long time off. Musk is talking about giving 2-years severance pay to the hundreds of thousands of government employees he's about to lay off. But maybe those employees can do something productive with the money (eg invest it or start a business) rather than passing meaningless pieces of paper to one-another pretending that is work.

Musk is angry that the US government spent $43bn on a project to provide rural broadband internet but failed to connect a single home. Every penny was absorbed by the machine. Meanwhile Musk had a product (Starlink) that could've connected every house in the country for a similar cost.

Similarly, when Musk lived in California he was critical of the high-speed rail project that spent $100bn but didn't lay a single yard of track (sound familiar to anyone on this side of the pond?).The French company that tried very hard to deliver the project abandoned it proclaiming there to be less corruption and red tape in Africa (they've since delivered a high-speed rail project in Algeria and the one in California still hasn't laid a yard of track).

More recently Musk has been highly critical of the vast bureaucracy holding back SpaceX. He has talked about needing sign-off to prove that the rocket launch won't be harmful to whales. Despite SpaceX paying for and delivering all the required research and paperwork it still takes longer to get the form back from the government department concerned than it takes for SpaceX to build the rocket.

Let us not forget that Musk fired 80% of the employees of Twitter and the service continued just fine. I know it shocked some people to find out that if you have an organisation where the HR and Marketing and PR departments vastly outnumber the engineers, and you fire the non-engineers, the company carries on just fine!

Don't get me wrong. I've never been a Musk fanboy. And I don't like Tesla cars. But I'm with him on this one.
Not buying his lies.
His rockets are failing because he cant deliver what was promised.
The red tape has nothing to do with that despite his proteststions. His own companies are receiving billions in taxpayers money and not delivering. All they get is delays, spin and PR.
In 2016 he was going to take a 200,000lb payload into space by 2018 or something utterly mind numbingly unbelieveable, with a mind to colonising and terraforming mars.
That deadline was pushed back and pushed back, and reduced in size repeatedly into what his rockets could achieve, the thrust size and the payload size decreasing at every press release.
To date instead of 200,000lb or whatever the huge number for the payload exactly was, hes achieved a payload of about 50grams. With a banana.
No red tape has hindered his moronic nature in that regard, yet billions of taxpayers money has been thrown up the wall.

He "gave" Ukraine the use of his starlink satellites as a PR stunt, then has strategically turned them off during counter attacks, so they cannot effectively fight against Russia with it, and then demanded payment for its use.
He has done the same with china against Taiwan. Both US allies, whilst his company holds US defense contracts.
I would not trust this man to run a bath without Putins involvement, let alone equip the US with internet that he has kept back doors into, so that only he can control and manipulate the cyber security of the USA.

The guy has a good head for seeking out deals for companies, and then bullying everyone who works for him to maintain his public image.
He is a fraud.
Teslas before his involvement and early on, were an exciting interesting car. Now they are riddled with issues and abysmal.

He is under countless investigations for unsafe working practices that have lead to deaths of the public and employees, skirting regulations, securities fraud, and a whole host of other things.

He has bought himself his position, not to help out the everyday worker that he admittedly abhors, but to gut the country of the regulations that have been made to keep lunacy in check. By doing so all of those issues he is under investigation for will disappear, either due to his mate in the WH makingnit so, or him defunding those departments and lilling them that way.

Just one example being he wants to do away with the accident reporting regulations that force his company to report any accidents caused by his self driving car tech, which is yet another thing killing people, not fit for purpose, and has been promised every week for the past decade. Those reports are vital to ensure public safety. He wants them erased.

I have no doubt that there is a vast amount of waste in government, both over there and here. The way to deal with it is sensibly, not sticking a manchild with a fragile ego in the driving seat, who is only out to scrap all regulation that hinders him from making more money off of the deaths of his employees, the planet, or the public.

Governments like ours, run mostly, quite smoothly. They do so because of the bloated beurocracy that makes it work like a well oiled machine. His plan, is to gut anything that he doesnt understand the reason for.
He isnt the most intelligent person on the planet, despite his supporters hanging on every word. He cant know every aspect of every nook and cranny. So i am willing to bet we will see things stripped that are vital to not only the smooth running of the country, but to the security of the US, and us/Europe.

Sorry for the rant Stinsy.
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NoraBatty wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:18 pm
Stinsy wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:04 am Any actual cash savings will be a long time off. Musk is talking about giving 2-years severance pay to the hundreds of thousands of government employees he's about to lay off. But maybe those employees can do something productive with the money (eg invest it or start a business) rather than passing meaningless pieces of paper to one-another pretending that is work.

Musk is angry that the US government spent $43bn on a project to provide rural broadband internet but failed to connect a single home. Every penny was absorbed by the machine. Meanwhile Musk had a product (Starlink) that could've connected every house in the country for a similar cost.

Similarly, when Musk lived in California he was critical of the high-speed rail project that spent $100bn but didn't lay a single yard of track (sound familiar to anyone on this side of the pond?).The French company that tried very hard to deliver the project abandoned it proclaiming there to be less corruption and red tape in Africa (they've since delivered a high-speed rail project in Algeria and the one in California still hasn't laid a yard of track).

More recently Musk has been highly critical of the vast bureaucracy holding back SpaceX. He has talked about needing sign-off to prove that the rocket launch won't be harmful to whales. Despite SpaceX paying for and delivering all the required research and paperwork it still takes longer to get the form back from the government department concerned than it takes for SpaceX to build the rocket.

Let us not forget that Musk fired 80% of the employees of Twitter and the service continued just fine. I know it shocked some people to find out that if you have an organisation where the HR and Marketing and PR departments vastly outnumber the engineers, and you fire the non-engineers, the company carries on just fine!

Don't get me wrong. I've never been a Musk fanboy. And I don't like Tesla cars. But I'm with him on this one.
Not buying his lies.
His rockets are failing because he cant deliver what was promised.
The red tape has nothing to do with that despite his proteststions. His own companies are receiving billions in taxpayers money and not delivering. All they get is delays, spin and PR.
In 2016 he was going to take a 200,000lb payload into space by 2018 or something utterly mind numbingly unbelieveable, with a mind to colonising and terraforming mars.
That deadline was pushed back and pushed back, and reduced in size repeatedly into what his rockets could achieve, the thrust size and the payload size decreasing at every press release.
To date instead of 200,000lb or whatever the huge number for the payload exactly was, hes achieved a payload of about 50grams. With a banana.
No red tape has hindered his moronic nature in that regard, yet billions of taxpayers money has been thrown up the wall.

He "gave" Ukraine the use of his starlink satellites as a PR stunt, then has strategically turned them off during counter attacks, so they cannot effectively fight against Russia with it, and then demanded payment for its use.
He has done the same with china against Taiwan. Both US allies, whilst his company holds US defense contracts.
I would not trust this man to run a bath without Putins involvement, let alone equip the US with internet that he has kept back doors into, so that only he can control and manipulate the cyber security of the USA.

The guy has a good head for seeking out deals for companies, and then bullying everyone who works for him to maintain his public image.
He is a fraud.
Teslas before his involvement and early on, were an exciting interesting car. Now they are riddled with issues and abysmal.

He is under countless investigations for unsafe working practices that have lead to deaths of the public and employees, skirting regulations, securities fraud, and a whole host of other things.

He has bought himself his position, not to help out the everyday worker that he admittedly abhors, but to gut the country of the regulations that have been made to keep lunacy in check. By doing so all of those issues he is under investigation for will disappear, either due to his mate in the WH makingnit so, or him defunding those departments and lilling them that way.

Just one example being he wants to do away with the accident reporting regulations that force his company to report any accidents caused by his self driving car tech, which is yet another thing killing people, not fit for purpose, and has been promised every week for the past decade. Those reports are vital to ensure public safety. He wants them erased.

I have no doubt that there is a vast amount of waste in government, both over there and here. The way to deal with it is sensibly, not sticking a manchild with a fragile ego in the driving seat, who is only out to scrap all regulation that hinders him from making more money off of the deaths of his employees, the planet, or the public.

Governments like ours, run mostly, quite smoothly. They do so because of the bloated beurocracy that makes it work like a well oiled machine. His plan, is to gut anything that he doesnt understand the reason for.
He isnt the most intelligent person on the planet, despite his supporters hanging on every word. He cant know every aspect of every nook and cranny. So i am willing to bet we will see things stripped that are vital to not only the smooth running of the country, but to the security of the US, and us/Europe.

Sorry for the rant Stinsy.
The man boils my pee, and has done for years.
I don't know where you got that information. Can I respectfully suggest you be more careful in future, otherwise you risk looking foolish.
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Not to keen on him then Nora?
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resybaby wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:32 pm Not to keen on him then Nora?
Is there still doubt?
was i not obvious enough :hysteria:
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