generator over voltage

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Justme
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generator over voltage

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Currently struggling through a head fog of illness with a 11kw genny that is giving me an over voltage of 333v ac.
Its a single phase unit.
Tried new AVR's all still give same voltage.
Removing avr & output drops to 30v ac.
Tested all joints & windings for shorts & cant find any but dont have a megga to do a high voltage leak test.
My super cheap scope goes crazy & I cant get any sensible readings, but it does read from the inverter fine.

All googling points to over rpm (its not) faulty avr (unlikely 3 are faulty) or loose connections or high resistance which I cant find any.

I just cant find whats up with it.
Westie
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Re: generator over voltage

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Justme wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:46 pm Currently struggling through a head fog of illness with a 11kw genny that is giving me an over voltage of 333v ac.
Its a single phase unit.
Tried new AVR's all still give same voltage.
Removing avr & output drops to 30v ac.
Tested all joints & windings for shorts & cant find any but dont have a megga to do a high voltage leak test.
My super cheap scope goes crazy & I cant get any sensible readings, but it does read from the inverter fine.

All googling points to over rpm (its not) faulty avr (unlikely 3 are faulty) or loose connections or high resistance which I cant find any.

I just cant find whats up with it.
Need a bit more info mate, is it brushed or brushless, if brushed how many sliprings 2 or 3?
Tinbum
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Re: generator over voltage

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Justme wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:46 pm All googling points to over rpm
That would just effect frequency.
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rogeriko
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Re: generator over voltage

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Post by rogeriko »

Put a load on it, like an electric heater 2-3kw and then measure it.
newtoallthis
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Re: generator over voltage

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I am a mere Mechanical Engineer, but from my distant memory I have to ask A=are you measuring RMS voltage or Peak voltage.

RMS x √2 = Peak.

So, if you are measuring 230 V and your meter is set to Peak then it will indicate 325V. 240V would indicate 339V.
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Re: generator over voltage

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Post by billi »

rogeriko wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:30 pm Put a load on it, like an electric heater 2-3kw and then measure it.
my first thought , too
Hermit
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Re: generator over voltage

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Hi Justme, sounds like a dud meter or something to me as you say "it reads OK at the inverter". I am thinking that if the inverter accepts the voltage then it must be OK :?:
Justme
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Re: generator over voltage

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Post by Justme »

Hermit wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:26 am Hi Justme, sounds like a dud meter or something to me as you say "it reads OK at the inverter". I am thinking that if the inverter accepts the voltage then it must be OK :?:
When did I say that?
The scope reads inverter fine.
Meter reads inverter fine.
Westie
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Re: generator over voltage

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Post by Westie »

newtoallthis wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:01 pm I am a mere Mechanical Engineer, but from my distant memory I have to ask A=are you measuring RMS voltage or Peak voltage.

RMS x √2 = Peak.

So, if you are measuring 230 V and your meter is set to Peak then it will indicate 325V. 240V would indicate 339V.
Good point, many cheap multimeters have a peak hold function now... Make sure its not peak holding!
Justme
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Re: generator over voltage

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Post by Justme »

Westie wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:45 pm
Need a bit more info mate, is it brushed or brushless, if brushed how many sliprings 2 or 3?

Brushless.
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