40 degrees next weekend, mid July ?
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Re: 40 degrees next weekend, mid July ?
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The best strategy is probably to copy what they do in hot climates and "night purge". This means opening windows at night, to allow cooler air to circulate around the house, then close everything up tight during the day to keep the hot air out. When I was working in the south of France years ago everyone did this, with iron security grills over the windows with inward opening windows. During the day closed timber shutters on the outside of the windows would help keep the heat out.[/quote]
I think we do this anyway, but just put up with the inevitable insect bites and apply anti-histamine as necessary each morning.
My solution today (now, 9.45pm) is to leave the bedroom windows and door closed to stop it being warmed up by the external air, but open the windows of the downstairs room we are in and everything else up upstairs to get the benefit of a slight breeze. We'll open the bedroom windows in an hour or so.
If it gets to be part of a pattern - or the norm - we (I) might have to get mossie nets to stretch over a frame to fit against the bedroom windows.
External shading (maybe shutters) is definitely under consideration...
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The best strategy is probably to copy what they do in hot climates and "night purge". This means opening windows at night, to allow cooler air to circulate around the house, then close everything up tight during the day to keep the hot air out. When I was working in the south of France years ago everyone did this, with iron security grills over the windows with inward opening windows. During the day closed timber shutters on the outside of the windows would help keep the heat out.[/quote]
I think we do this anyway, but just put up with the inevitable insect bites and apply anti-histamine as necessary each morning.
My solution today (now, 9.45pm) is to leave the bedroom windows and door closed to stop it being warmed up by the external air, but open the windows of the downstairs room we are in and everything else up upstairs to get the benefit of a slight breeze. We'll open the bedroom windows in an hour or so.
If it gets to be part of a pattern - or the norm - we (I) might have to get mossie nets to stretch over a frame to fit against the bedroom windows.
External shading (maybe shutters) is definitely under consideration...
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Re: 40 degrees next weekend, mid July ?
We leave everything we can open here all night protected with this sort of thing for protection from insects (open in Chrome to translate) https://www.obi.at/insektenschutzrahmen ... /p/5135603
Doors ans windows are protected with shade from various awnings and parasols as required during the day.
Doors ans windows are protected with shade from various awnings and parasols as required during the day.
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Re: 40 degrees next weekend, mid July ?
Something that is surprising me at the moment is that none of the health advice seems to mention the need for salt (or oral rehydration mixtures.)
We always have sachets of the powder with us on summer mountain expeditions, and at home I put a pinch of salt into diluted carton orange juice.
(My first summer vacation job was night shifts in a faggot and pork pie factory, collecting up the deep aluminium trays used for the ingredients and putting them through a hot steamy tunnel-washing machine.
Even overnight it was hot and so the works canteen drinks machine had (for free) very thin lemon squash with a trace of salt in it. At first it tasted horrible but I got used to it.)
We always have sachets of the powder with us on summer mountain expeditions, and at home I put a pinch of salt into diluted carton orange juice.
(My first summer vacation job was night shifts in a faggot and pork pie factory, collecting up the deep aluminium trays used for the ingredients and putting them through a hot steamy tunnel-washing machine.
Even overnight it was hot and so the works canteen drinks machine had (for free) very thin lemon squash with a trace of salt in it. At first it tasted horrible but I got used to it.)
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Re: 40 degrees next weekend, mid July ?
Perhaps they don't want to confuse the message for what will be a relatively short lived problem, I guess most people who have a reasonable diet wont be short of Sodium or whatever other electrolytes are important ? Stopping people jumping in rivers does seem to be a problem though...sadly.
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PS I cannot believe how effective the wet dust sheets have been over the conservatory, it is the coolest place in the house now. It did get fairly warm last evening at 6 ish, but the floor stayed cold so as soon as the sun dropped it was actively cooling the house. Mrs Desps mum slept well last nightspread-tee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:44 am Perhaps they don't want to confuse the message for what will be a relatively short lived problem, I guess most people who have a reasonable diet wont be short of Sodium or whatever other electrolytes are important ? Stopping people jumping in rivers does seem to be a problem though...sadly.
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Re: 40 degrees next weekend, mid July ?
Not so sure about that... salt shortage (and cramp) is well recognised as a precursor to heat stroke in walking/climbing circles. My late mum kept getting cramp in her nursing home, we realised that their diet was salt-deficient as it is one of the things demonised by the health police. In fact she had complained about tasteless food, and using her own salt-cellar at mealtimes cured it.spread-tee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:44 am Perhaps they don't want to confuse the message for what will be a relatively short lived problem, I guess most people who have a reasonable diet wont be short of Sodium or whatever other electrolytes are important ? Stopping people jumping in rivers does seem to be a problem though...sadly.
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Re: 40 degrees next weekend, mid July ?
OK, I was aware it is an issue during strenuous activity, but what you say about cramps is interesting. I have started suffering with mild cramps over the last year which I have never experienced before??
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Re: 40 degrees next weekend, mid July ?
It is part of ageing too, maybe as the circulation deteriorates? Quinine is one treatment for it, so a regular glass of tonic water helps apparently (although I can't find that recommended anywhere now.)
https://blog.outdoorherbivore.com/life/ ... le-hiking/ seems to cover it, but again, it doesn't say what I was taught, that water alone is quite "dangerous" - I would have put the salt / electrolyte balance bit in with equal prominence.
To be fair, it does say
https://blog.outdoorherbivore.com/life/ ... le-hiking/ seems to cover it, but again, it doesn't say what I was taught, that water alone is quite "dangerous" - I would have put the salt / electrolyte balance bit in with equal prominence.
To be fair, it does say
AThe fastest way to get sodium in your body is to add it to your drinking water. Add 1/4 to 1/2 tsp of salt, about one salt packet, to a standard (32 fl oz, about 1 L) water bottle. If you are sodium deficient, the cramps will subside within minutes.
The sodium deficit required to prompt muscle cramping is not well understood. However, studies estimate that sweat-induced sodium losses between 20% to 30% are all it takes to produce severe muscle cramping.
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Re: 40 degrees next weekend, mid July ?
I always put salt in my drinking water. Had a "funny turn" halfway up a mountain once that a passing climber diagnosed as "Hyponatremia" (low salt) and gave me a salt tablet. In about 5 mins I was feeling much better.
Since cutting out highly salted junk food I now add ½ a teaspoon in a pint of water all year round, but it is doubly important in hot weather, particularly if you are being active.
Since cutting out highly salted junk food I now add ½ a teaspoon in a pint of water all year round, but it is doubly important in hot weather, particularly if you are being active.
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Re: 40 degrees next weekend, mid July ?
My gran always kept salt tablets in her bag in summer, she reckoned they stopped her getting cramp. I think this used to be a common thing, years ago, something that probably got discredited by the salt police when the link was made between high BP and sodium intake.
I'm partial to tonic water, though. I've been making my own for a while now, very easy to make a concentrated tonic syrup, takes about half an hour to make half a litre of syrup. When mixed with carbonated water half a litre of syrup makes about two litres of tonic water. Best thing is that I know it doesn't contain any added stuff, it's just cinchona bark, sugar, water and citric acid.
I'm partial to tonic water, though. I've been making my own for a while now, very easy to make a concentrated tonic syrup, takes about half an hour to make half a litre of syrup. When mixed with carbonated water half a litre of syrup makes about two litres of tonic water. Best thing is that I know it doesn't contain any added stuff, it's just cinchona bark, sugar, water and citric acid.
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