Both used all weathers, the usual above 3 degrees c, fully charged battery, long runs (60 miles suggested by mechanic)
The Mini cooper had a replacement battery, ..still nothing.
Basically if it doesn't work / turned off, & buying without the benevolent input of whoever has messed around with it / experienced the same, ..you are stuck trying to "work it out" but will likely simply forget as time go's by, so the good it does is a bit like calling a piece of pork steak "grass" ..but you get the benefit of "alleged" environmental savings, ..which is BS.
I wonder what percentage of start / stops this applies too?