EV's with 300+ mile range?

[Joeboy]

I'll be honest, I think the model 3 is outstanding on paper and i'm sure it will blow me away in reality. How is it as a load lugger, we are back seat down types and carry around all sorts of 2nd hand tat!

This was / is my only concern with the TM3.

My ford focus practically always had the rear seats down and I filled it with gardening waste, building materials, soil, rubble, my and my mates paraglider, etc. I assumed the TM3 was a hatchback when I ordered it.

However, most of my building work is complete, I now pay for the council garden waste collection service. Long items like timber and copper pipes should still fit as the back seats can still go down. So the storage issue wont affect me as much going forward as it would have in the past.

Just watched this video and it does seem to allay most of my main concerns in terms of lugging stuff about.

Nowty, That is a serious amount of flat pack type storage space in the TM3 and will meet almost all need.
SWMBO has a hobby of trading in 2nd hand goods & furniture, her Dad was an antique dealer and its in there. She does well at it and it gives her the independence from me that her personality demands. I'm ok with that as its quite cool to be sitting out in Turkey and she pays for dinner off the back of this trade or that trade. The Y will replace the Transit Connect in almost all scenarios that I can think of. I'll just get a custom shaped thick sheet of some type to line out the back for those awkward loads but i don't think i'll be doing builder runs...

I Like what Dan is saying about cell changes and superstructure upgrades. I have no idea what they are but the idea that Tesla is continually evolving their own game is outstanding. A lot of the other manufacturers just aren't there and don't seem to have an A game, more a forced E game due to legislation. In saying that I still like the VW id3 & 4 and the Hyundai I5. I am eagerly awaiting your new arrival and will happily sit back for the Y for a good while.

[Stinsy]

TM3LR vs iD4 Edinborough to Bournemouth:

[nowty]

I Like what Dan is saying about cell changes and superstructure upgrades. I have no idea what they are but the idea that Tesla is continually evolving their own game is outstanding.

Basically they currently build a car that is structurally safe without the battery pack. They also make a structurally safe removable battery pack then fit it in.

In the future they will build the battery pack into the car as part of the structure, so can save weight and still have a structurally safe car and battery pack.

They are also changing the size of the cells. Making them larger so fewer are needed, making the internal cell tabless so cell construction costs are reduced and reliability increased. Larger cells also increase energy density because there is less air space between the cells. The cells will also be mounted vertically as its more efficient for heating cooling the batteries from each end of the cell.

Therefore the car will be lighter, have more battery capacity for the same size and be cheaper to manufacture. The downside is if the batteries fail, you probably have to scrap the car but they are getting so reliable that this will became less and less of an issue and I would imagine the cars would come with an increased battery warranty.

[Mart]

Hiya Dan, I think I mentioned a rumour a while back that Giga Shanghai may have reached a production rate of 1,000 TMY's per week. That's outstanding, and the latest figures for August production (~44k) seem to show they have passed the half million mark (TMY's + TM3's) at an annualised rate.

With Giga Texas and Giga Berlin hopefully coming on line this year, and both apparently having much larger production potential than Shanghai, then I suspect Elon's claim, a while back, that the TMY could be the top selling car by revenue in 2022, and top selling car by volume in 2023, is looking more and more likely. [V's the Toyota Corolla at ~1m pa, assuming Corolla sales start to drop in the face of rising BEV competition.]

Tesla's are become right common these days!

[Joeboy]

Nowty, you never fail to impress me! I read an article about 400 mile range Y being possible. I won't wait that long. Once they are flowing into uk I'll get onboard.

[nowty]

Nowty, you never fail to impress me! I read an article about 400 mile range Y being possible. I won't wait that long. Once they are flowing into uk I'll get onboard.

After your test drive next week, you might jump on board the TM3 as an interim solution.

[Joeboy]

Nowty, you never fail to impress me! I read an article about 400 mile range Y being possible. I won't wait that long. Once they are flowing into uk I'll get onboard.

After your test drive next week, you might jump on board the TM3 as an interim solution.

Mibbee's aye, mibbee's naw.