Induction hob

[Mr Gus]

Try "elbow grease" (cheap n cheerful spray on cleaning product by 151..
Cuts through most crud well.

At least with proper ovens they use pyrolitic liners

[Oldgreybeard]

Try "elbow grease" (cheap n cheerful spray on cleaning product by 151..
Cuts through most crud well.

At least with proper ovens they use pyrolitic liners

That last sentence is key. The lining in the Sage is some sort of silver high temperature paint applied to very thin aluminium sheet. It's wholly unsuitable as a lining material and can only be cleaned with mild soap and warm water. Any attempt to use any other cleaning products discolours or removes the paint.

It really is a very poorly designed product, even down to the semi-open quartz tubes at the base that constantly get splashed and end up with burned on crud that cannot be cleaned off.

[Joeboy]

Try "elbow grease" (cheap n cheerful spray on cleaning product by 151..
Cuts through most crud well.

At least with proper ovens they use pyrolitic liners

That last sentence is key. The lining in the Sage is some sort of silver high temperature paint applied to very thin aluminium sheet. It's wholly unsuitable as a lining material and can only be cleaned with mild soap and warm water. Any attempt to use any other cleaning products discolours or removes the paint.

It really is a very poorly designed product, even down to the semi-open quartz tubes at the base that constantly get splashed and end up with burned on crud that cannot be cleaned off.

This isn't that. No complaints or downside.
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[Mr Gus]

It was when I looked in lewis's at peak heston sage collab marketing that I realised Sage were no more than Breville stock rebadged with inflated prices.
I rang up to ask questions re their version of the instantpot (pre us buying instantpot) ..condescending twats at a london office who supposedly represented their brand but knew naff all about it when asked pertinent questions, ... & the non existent consumable spares!

Idiot companies who think a london address is a license to be taken seriously are plentiful sadly.
"we've got your money, now piss off" (as I heard faiground folk contempibly shout at "customers" when I was young) attitude stinks.

Made me look a bit deeper at many purchases since.

OGB, "elbow grease" probably cheapest at poundland type placea / BM home bargains, ...fluoro yello in colour.

[openspaceman]

We are massively disappointed with the Sage mini oven/grill/air fryer that we bought a couple of months ago. It;s impossible to clean, none of the removable parts are dishwasher safe, and the aluminium coated interior will not tolerate any cleaning agents other than warm water, which is clearly completely useless for something that gets very hot and splashes fats around inside. .

I'll echo that but I am keeping it, it is just relegated to the back conservatory that doubles as my workshop.

It was my first foray into air frying and I like the toasting/grill/small oven function which has led me to decide to do away with the big oven.

I do think I would be better off with the sort Joeboy linked for purely air frying.

[Mr Gus]

All, please remember, if you want / need to do an average pork / beef / sasquatch / chicken roast of around 2.25kg you will need a large single drawer unit in excess of 7 litre capacity drawer.

Multi level tray height settings as per joes unit make sense, ..this is where my duo crisp loses points, being circular it has a flimsy "food balancing" second tier, a major upset to food stabilisation & the like, ought to be a mesh drop in tray, & as a result i tend not to use it, also restricts airflow somewhat, so I tend to limit the load to the main section, .thats where joes traditional oven drawer unit beats ours hands down.

[Oldgreybeard]

We are massively disappointed with the Sage mini oven/grill/air fryer that we bought a couple of months ago. It;s impossible to clean, none of the removable parts are dishwasher safe, and the aluminium coated interior will not tolerate any cleaning agents other than warm water, which is clearly completely useless for something that gets very hot and splashes fats around inside. .

I'll echo that but I am keeping it, it is just relegated to the back conservatory that doubles as my workshop.

It was my first foray into air frying and I like the toasting/grill/small oven function which has led me to decide to do away with the big oven.

I do think I would be better off with the sort Joeboy linked for purely air frying.

That's reassuring that it's not just us, such a shame that Sage didn't put a little more effort into making the thing so that it could be cleaned easily. I'm also coming around to the model that Joeboy linked to earlier. Just seems a massive waste to discard something that works, just because it's so tricky to keep clean. It severely aggravates my "don't waste stuff" gene . . .

[Mr Gus]

Clean it, flog it.
Clean it, gift it to a community building kitchen, but laminate cleaning instructions, a great tool for a scout hall, mothers meets, warming centres etc..

Try that degreasant & a microfibre cloth.
If the glass is caked, then, as per our regular oven glass, 151, let sit on glass to soak in for 5 mins, then use a D.E. shaving blade to remove baked on glass grot, wipe, reapply, wash off, set to high heat ro burn off any residuals.

151 cleans the mankiest of upvc frames (use decent disposable paper towels) to buff, pretty sure it will clean up your sage good enough to satisfy your requirements.
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Or depending on how long owned, return it as faulty in principal, 6 months or less, "suggest" a n intermittent fault on the door catch that appears to reset the programming, clock or whatever

[Stinsy]

Sounds fantastic. any advice as to and air fryer that is easy to clean?

We are massively disappointed with the Sage mini oven/grill/air fryer that we bought a couple of months ago. It;s impossible to clean, none of the removable parts are dishwasher safe, and the aluminium coated interior will not tolerate any cleaning agents other than warm water, which is clearly completely useless for something that gets very hot and splashes fats around inside. I'm very, very unhappy with the thing, especially as it was far from cheap. My advice would be to avoid the Sage Mini Oven like the plague, unless you are OK using something that looks like the inside of a burnt medieval pot after a couple of weeks use (and creates the most horrendous smells as a consequence).

The only plus side is that the air fryer function works very well, and has shown that the concept of cooking with very hot air works well. I just want something that we can keep clean, as the thing is just a constant source of embarrassment if anyone comes around, with it's burned on stains that cannot be removed. I'd happily give it away, but I'm frankly embarrassed to do so as it looks as if we have b=never tried to clean it.

All suggestions welcome, there are only two of us, and I think I would settle for something less multi-purpose than the ~£350 Sage. I think that what we really need is an air fryer, a low powered warmer for plates etc (to save turning the main oven on) and a decent slow cooker, I was reluctant to get these as separate items, but my view has changed after a few weeks with the Sage, The Sage may be free to a good home, but it's not pretty, although it does work OK.

I've always been served well by Sage branded stuff. Bit pricey, but I've aways found it to be high-quality. I haven't tried the Sage air-frier though (min is Ninja).

[Stinsy]

Try "elbow grease" (cheap n cheerful spray on cleaning product by 151..
Cuts through most crud well.

At least with proper ovens they use pyrolitic liners

+1 for Elbow Grease. Simple degreasant, cheap enough and works very well. Particularly used weekly on the oven door...