Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

[nowty]

Just curiosity, who are we ripping off by playing this game?

National Grid, I'm sure they know what they are doing.
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[Yuff]

Just curiosity, who are we ripping off by playing this game?

Not sure we’re ripping anyone off, when you see what the energy companies are making and what customers are paying!

[Tinbum]

The bonus point seem to often come when they announce the next saving session for me.

I do seem to be short though. I have 11 saving sessions and only 8 lots of 100 points, should be 10, one missing is for the last session and the other for a session on 14/12/22.

[ducabi]

Just curiosity, who are we ripping off by playing this game?

Not sure we’re ripping anyone off, when you see what the energy companies are making and what customers are paying!

Perhaps we should do some group bulky purchase of oil straight from russia and avoid middleman's commission (e.g. shell).

[ducabi]

Just curiosity, who are we ripping off by playing this game?

National Grid, I'm sure they know what they are doing.
https://www.nationalgrideso.com/industr ... lexibility

More and more people are aware of how to "play the game". I guess the solution would be to scrap the in-day adj.

[Joeboy]

Just curiosity, who are we ripping off by playing this game?

National Grid, I'm sure they know what they are doing.
https://www.nationalgrideso.com/industr ... lexibility

More and more people are aware of how to "play the game". I guess the solution would be to scrap the in-day adj.

Why? What problem does the solution alleviate?

[ducabi]

Why? What problem does the solution alleviate?

At the moment we are making money by artificially increasing our demand during saving hours. E.g. 95% of my usage during peak rates comes from batteries and yet I'm able to have a saving of 4-6kwh during saving sessions.

[Moxi]

I think the national grid and the electricity supply companies are more interested in the proof of concept at the moment and therefore the more people who partake the better regardless of any adjustments that are made to attract people.

I am more than confident that once they have enough of the general public; bought and familiar with the process, having their smart meters fitted to join the fun, that they will moderate the system to make it work better for them - its got to be the cheapest grid management option available to them so the money individuals make is small beer.

That said I am happy to not have a smart meter and just harvest free electrons the old skool way - its still February and this month with increasing solar we have almost halved our daily consumption and that's without some of the exceptional weather others have had, so we are on track to be self reliant again in the next few months.

Dont think I am making judgement either as I am not I thoroughly enjoy reading these types of thread and enjoy seeing members beating the companies at their own game, long may that continue for you all.

Moxi

[nowty]

I see it as a reward by a permanent shift in behaviour away from the peak demand parts of the peak rate period by the use of batteries. People without batteries would normally be adding to those peak demand times every day apart from the only times there is a saving session.

[Joeboy]

Why? What problem does the solution alleviate?

At the moment we are making money by artificially increasing our demand during saving hours. E.g. 95% of my usage during peak rates comes from batteries and yet I'm able to have a saving of 4-6kwh during saving sessions.

Understood but in our case we shifted the daily load that would have run regardless and knocked out the little bit of gch.with storage heaters instead. No extra power was used in the cycle just compressed and chose the time frame it happened within.