Outgoing Octopus

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Krill wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:33 pm They put three sections on the bill, import export and gas. If a section is missing just email them and wait a week while they sort it.
Thanks Krill, will do that.
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A small taste of things to come on my export tariff.

I had some extra hours of 7.5p cheapslot this morning from the octopus on the IOG till the sun came out. So batteries full, house warm and exporting in December at 15p. :twisted:

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nowty wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:05 pm A small taste of things to come on my export tariff.

I had some extra hours of 7.5p cheapslot this morning from the octopus on the IOG till the sun came out. So batteries full, house warm and exporting in December at 15p. :twisted:

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Have you applied recently? How long should it take?

I filled out the form to get on Octopus Outgoing a week-or-two back and haven't heard a sausage.
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Stinsy wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:07 pm Have you applied recently? How long should it take?

I filled out the form to get on Octopus Outgoing a week-or-two back and haven't heard a sausage.
Thats what the thread is about, if you go back to the start you can see what happened and when, but to summarise it took about 7 weeks from start to finish. It could have been a week shorter if my FIT provider had got back to me without further prompting. But it was still pretty painless, the timelines were,

8th Oct - Applied online, there was about 1 week of pre application work getting the re-confirmation from the DNO as I had lost everything and needed a confirmation letter from them before I could apply online to Octopus.

31st Oct - Received email from Octopus about DNO has OK'd the export MPAN and I need to contact my FIT provider to cancel my deemed exports and provide proof.

13th Nov - Received email confirmation back from FIT provider after an email chase up.

21st Nov - Octopus confirm they have received my FIT provider confirmation.

22nd Nov - Octopus asks me for an opening Export Meter reading with photo from my smart meter.

23rd Nov - Confirmation from Octopus its all up and running, it actually started from the beginning of the 22nd which was fantastic as it meant that there were 5 working days before the second saving session which is the minimum number of readings for the baseline calculation to be valid with an export MPAN.
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nowty wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:32 pm
Stinsy wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:07 pm Have you applied recently? How long should it take?

I filled out the form to get on Octopus Outgoing a week-or-two back and haven't heard a sausage.
Thats what the thread is about, if you go back to the start you can see what happened and when, but to summarise it took about 7 weeks from start to finish. It could have been a week shorter if my FIT provider had got back to me without further prompting. But it was still pretty painless, the timelines were,

8th Oct - Applied online, there was about 1 week of pre application work getting the re-confirmation from the DNO as I had lost everything and needed a confirmation letter from them before I could apply online to Octopus.

31st Oct - Received email from Octopus about DNO has OK'd the export MPAN and I need to contact my FIT provider to cancel my deemed exports and provide proof.

13th Nov - Received email confirmation back from FIT provider after an email chase up.

21st Nov - Octopus confirm they have received my FIT provider confirmation.

22nd Nov - Octopus asks me for an opening Export Meter reading with photo from my smart meter.

23rd Nov - Confirmation from Octopus its all up and running, it actually started from the beginning of the 22nd which was fantastic as it meant that there were 5 working days before the second saving session which is the minimum number of readings for the baseline calculation to be valid with an export MPAN.
Hilarious! As I was reading that I received an email from Octopus!


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Do they really need manual meter readings? Can they not read my smartmeter?
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Stinsy wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:54 pm
nowty wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:32 pm
Stinsy wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:07 pm Have you applied recently? How long should it take?

I filled out the form to get on Octopus Outgoing a week-or-two back and haven't heard a sausage.
Thats what the thread is about, if you go back to the start you can see what happened and when, but to summarise it took about 7 weeks from start to finish. It could have been a week shorter if my FIT provider had got back to me without further prompting. But it was still pretty painless, the timelines were,

8th Oct - Applied online, there was about 1 week of pre application work getting the re-confirmation from the DNO as I had lost everything and needed a confirmation letter from them before I could apply online to Octopus.

31st Oct - Received email from Octopus about DNO has OK'd the export MPAN and I need to contact my FIT provider to cancel my deemed exports and provide proof.

13th Nov - Received email confirmation back from FIT provider after an email chase up.

21st Nov - Octopus confirm they have received my FIT provider confirmation.

22nd Nov - Octopus asks me for an opening Export Meter reading with photo from my smart meter.

23rd Nov - Confirmation from Octopus its all up and running, it actually started from the beginning of the 22nd which was fantastic as it meant that there were 5 working days before the second saving session which is the minimum number of readings for the baseline calculation to be valid with an export MPAN.
Hilarious! As I was reading that I received an email from Octopus!


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Do they really need manual meter readings? Can they not read my smartmeter?
It took them a while to update me to smart meter readings for my outgoing account, but they eventually caught up and backdated what they had missed.
I sent them the required photos and readings - I assumed it was mainly to prove the initial readings
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You need to make sure the settings are all correct in the app.
I had an email confirming I was up and running but I couldn’t see any export numbers and they had to add some settings manually.
All up and running now but my recent bill didn’t show any export figures so I emailed them last week about that.
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Stinsy wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:54 pm Hilarious! As I was reading that I received an email from Octopus!
Did you get your deemed export from Octopus ?, just wondering why it was so quick.
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nowty wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:31 pm
Stinsy wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:54 pm Hilarious! As I was reading that I received an email from Octopus!
Did you get your deemed export from Octopus ?, just wondering why it was so quick.
No FiT unfortunately. Have never registered for export payments before because I tried to export nothing. However now import is 7.5p and export is 15p it is worthwhile exporting. The saving seasons provoked me into action…
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It's interesting I was doing come calculations a few days ago for the life time cost per kWh for my pylon tech stack. The money I'd get from time shifting the night to day on the octopus Tariff was about the same. So, doing the time shift is a zero gain evolution for me + it is wearing out all the equipment?

But.... There is also the life time degradation of the stack to consider. So is it worth just going balls out on the transfer and taking the sunshine benefits and storage when I can so that at least the stack is earning real savings on the solar and paying for itself before it degrades based on calendar time rather than cycle time.

What's the next technology we will all be embracing for storage next :P It would be cool to drop in a shipping container with some sort of redux technology which allows longer term time shiftimg of the solar.
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