Small things matter

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Re: Small things matter

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What was your heat load requirement for the house and whats your flow temp ?

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Re: Small things matter

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Fintray wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:58 am
richbee wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:31 am Looking good! - hopefully mine will fairly soon look very like that as well :D
What make/model are you getting Richbee? All being well you'll be well pleased with it.

Mine is back on after the installer checked the connections to the pump, might have been a loose connection but a Vaillant engineer is coming to check it over on Wednesday.
Same as yours - 12kW Arotherm plus
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Re: Small things matter

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Moxi wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:11 am What was your heat load requirement for the house and whats your flow temp ?

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Hi Moxi, heat load was 9.33kW at -4.7C at a design flow temp of 35C.
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Re: Small things matter

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richbee wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:35 pm
Fintray wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:58 am
richbee wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:31 am Looking good! - hopefully mine will fairly soon look very like that as well :D
What make/model are you getting Richbee? All being well you'll be well pleased with it.

Mine is back on after the installer checked the connections to the pump, might have been a loose connection but a Vaillant engineer is coming to check it over on Wednesday.
Same as yours - 12kW Arotherm plus
I've got the smaller one :oops: at 10kW.
3.87kWp PV
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
100 x 47mm Navitron tubes (still being installed!) Now likely to be removed for more PV.
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
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Re: Small things matter

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Thanks Fintray,

I have a total heat requirement (H+DHW) of 8,374kWh/yr so I am hoping to be sliding in under 6kW for an ASHP, that would be moving away from a grossly oversized condensing boiler that is rated at 28kW.

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Re: Small things matter

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Moxi wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:31 pm Thanks Fintray,

I have a total heat requirement (H+DHW) of 8,374kWh/yr so I am hoping to be sliding in under 6kW for an ASHP, that would be moving away from a grossly oversized condensing boiler that is rated at 28kW.

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You'll be able to see my heat pump details here https://heatpumpmonitor.org/ but you'll need to reduce the "Min days" to zero and I'm under Aberdeenshire.
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Tesla Powerwall 2
100 x 47mm Navitron tubes (still being installed!) Now likely to be removed for more PV.
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Re: Small things matter

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Fintray wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:19 pm
Moxi wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:31 pm Thanks Fintray,

I have a total heat requirement (H+DHW) of 8,374kWh/yr so I am hoping to be sliding in under 6kW for an ASHP, that would be moving away from a grossly oversized condensing boiler that is rated at 28kW.

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You'll be able to see my heat pump details here https://heatpumpmonitor.org/ but you'll need to reduce the "Min days" to zero and I'm under Aberdeenshire.
Aha - found you - SCOP of 3.4 so far :D
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Re: Small things matter

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Fintray wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:10 pm
richbee wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:35 pm
Fintray wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:58 am

What make/model are you getting Richbee? All being well you'll be well pleased with it.

Mine is back on after the installer checked the connections to the pump, might have been a loose connection but a Vaillant engineer is coming to check it over on Wednesday.
Same as yours - 12kW Arotherm plus
I've got the smaller one :oops: at 10kW.
Nice - think they are physically the same size, just different max power rating.
My installer reckoned we could probably get away with the 10kW version, but as the minimum output power level is the same for both, decided that having the 12kW version probably made sense for worst case scenario.
Solar PV since July '22:
5.6kWp east/west facing
3.6kW Sunsynk hybrid inverter
2x 5.12kWh Sunsynk batteries
1.6kWp Hoymiles East/West facing PV on the man cave
Ripple DW 2kW
Ripple WB 200W
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Re: Small things matter

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richbee wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:29 pm Nice - think they are physically the same size, just different max power rating.
My installer reckoned we could probably get away with the 10kW version, but as the minimum output power level is the same for both, decided that having the 12kW version probably made sense for worst case scenario.
I'm hoping to improve the COP once the house is back up to temperature and I can tune in the heating curve and go fully weather compensation only.

The size of the units is identical (big!), I did consider asking for the 12kW but decided to stick with the 10kW as the nearest to my heat loss calculation.
The graphs are showing over 13kW heat output so yours should be plenty big enough.
3.87kWp PV
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
100 x 47mm Navitron tubes (still being installed!) Now likely to be removed for more PV.
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
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Re: Small things matter

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Fintray wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:01 pm
richbee wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:29 pm Nice - think they are physically the same size, just different max power rating.
My installer reckoned we could probably get away with the 10kW version, but as the minimum output power level is the same for both, decided that having the 12kW version probably made sense for worst case scenario.
I'm hoping to improve the COP once the house is back up to temperature and I can tune in the heating curve and go fully weather compensation only.

The size of the units is identical (big!), I did consider asking for the 12kW but decided to stick with the 10kW as the nearest to my heat loss calculation.
The graphs are showing over 13kW heat output so yours should be plenty big enough.
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