Heat Pump combi storage cyclinder - the solution to homes with limited space ?

Air source, ground source and associated systems for heating homes
sharpener
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Re: Heat Pump combi storage cyclinder - the solution to homes with limited space ?

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GarethC wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:46 pm I thought inverter based heat pumps modulated effectively, so didn't realise oversize one would cycle inefficiently. In fact, I was under the impression that oversizing could be beneficial, as HPs running at partial loads achieved higher COPs.

Not sure where I got that from though...
A turndown ratio of 2:1 is commonplace, 3:1 unusual but some Vaillants achieve it

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So the modulation of even the best HPs is nowhere near as good as a modern boiler. Partial load improves CoP per se by about 0.5 at best, but of course if you want less output you can also run you emitters (rads/UFH) at a lower flow temp which makes a bigger improvement.
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Re: Heat Pump combi storage cyclinder - the solution to homes with limited space ?

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Sharpener,
Could you please explain what those 2 diagrames are saying. What is being plotted along the top.
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Re: Heat Pump combi storage cyclinder - the solution to homes with limited space ?

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Ken wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:13 am Sharpener,
Could you please explain what those 2 diagrames are saying. What is being plotted along the top.
Compressor speed in rps. The 40/50/60% columns are selectable as your max speed in Noise Reduction mode.

LH chart is COP, RH is power o/p. Full set of curves for all Arotherm Plus HPs is here https://www.facebook.com/groups/4887946 ... 388470991/
16 x 230W Upsolar panels S Devon, 4kW Steca, 3.9 MWh FITs/yr
8 x 405W Longi panels, 250/60 MPPT, 3.3 MWh/yr
Victron MultiPlus II-GX 48/5000/70-50
10.65 kWh Pylontec Force-L2
zappi 7kW EVCS
Villavent whole-house MVHR
5000l rainwater system
Vaillant 12kW HP
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