Part ownership of a Ripple Wind Turbine, fancy it?

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NoraBatty wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:37 am
Do you have any more info on what zonal pricing would look like or how it would work Nowty?
There is a bit about locational pricing here,
https://camelot-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/view ... 423#p44423

At the AGM last night it was stated that the current favoured option by the government was Zonal, we know the more complicated Nodal has already been ruled out.

Sarah explained that, in each zone the generating capacity would be compared with the consumption in that zone and the ratio will dictate the maximum leccy price that a generator can sell the leccy for. I don't know if that would be a fixed thing and reviewed periodically or a dynamic price depending on live conditions. At the moment its a single price nationwide.

The idea is that consumers who live in the areas with most generation will benefit from cheaper leccy prices and will provide incentives for industry to move there to take advantage of cheaper leccy. Likewise it will also incentivise more building of renewable generation in the south.

I'm not that bothered about locational pricing as its been known for a long time and makes sense for local people to benefit from cheaper energy prices. I see the potential changes to the Coop rules to be more of an existential threat and something I previously knew nothing about. It also begs the question when did Ripple know about these potential changes as its the first time they have mentioned them.
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"I'm not that bothered about locational pricing as its been known for a long time and makes sense for local people to benefit from cheaper energy prices."

As somebody who lives in GB6 I am quite concerned. "Local" covers a multitude of sins when it includes south Wales, Bristol and the whole M4 corridor, London, parts of the midlands and the whole of east anglia. I can imagine there's a lot of demand due to London that doesn't feel 'local' to most of the rest of that locality!
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18.7kW PV > 109MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 26MWh generated
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Link to the recorded GF AGM last night,
Info on Coop reform is from 39:05
Info on locational pricing from 45:00
18.7kW PV > 109MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 26MWh generated
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105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
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djh wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:13 pm "I'm not that bothered about locational pricing as its been known for a long time and makes sense for local people to benefit from cheaper energy prices."

As somebody who lives in GB6 I am quite concerned. "Local" covers a multitude of sins when it includes south Wales, Bristol and the whole M4 corridor, London, parts of the midlands and the whole of east anglia. I can imagine there's a lot of demand due to London that doesn't feel 'local' to most of the rest of that locality!
To clarify, I really mean Scotland vs England and Wales as thats the largest discrepancy between current renewable generation and load demand. And as I have a Ripple project in all 3 countries, it all evens out.

EDIT - Don't take the zonal map as the final solution and it might still never happen.
18.7kW PV > 109MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 26MWh generated
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nowty wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:18 pm as I have a Ripple project in all 3 countries
I'm not really bothered about Ripple. I am concerned about the price I pay for electricity being even more dependent on London than it already is!
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Kirk Hill savings rate from 1st January to 31st March 2025 Co-op (Octopus) 6.30p/kWh.
EON 6.50p/kWh and Good Energy 7.20p/kWh.
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Fintray wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 3:04 pm Kirk Hill savings rate from 1st January to 31st March 2025 Co-op (Octopus) 6.30p/kWh.
EON 6.50p/kWh and Good Energy 7.20p/kWh.
That might calm the AGM down a bit. :xx:

EDIT - I wonder if the 3 companies sent their bids in at different times, i.e Octopus first, EON a bit later and Good Energy the last. I say this as the year ahead wholesale price has been ticking up from 8p to 9p over the last month.

EDIT EDIT - And the price might keep up on the next review as summer 2025 gas is extraordinarily expensive.
https://archive.ph/IVg34
18.7kW PV > 109MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 26MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3
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