Tesla launches the V4 power cabinet...

[Stinsy]

I've long said that the ideal BEV needs the following:

• 50kWh battery.

• 4mi/kWh on the motorway in winter.

• 100kW charging.

If you do 150-200miles on your first hop, then stop for 15mins every 100 miles thereafter, you can get anywhere you want to get.

The car taking 15mins to charge is way more convenient than 5 mins anyway. This is because you can plug in, walk to the building, have a pee, buy a coffee, and walk back to the car in 15mins. Whereas a 5 min charge means you'd have to park in a non-charging space while you go for a pee and buy a coffee then move to a charger and wait by your car while it charges...

I frequently think of you when charging and the 50kwh/4mkwh/100kw I agree thats spot on but i fear that is a big ask in winter because of reduced batt cpacity,heating,head wind,rain. Perhaps we should say for 90% of the weather conditions ? What we need is 50kwh at 0C . This seems to be where the manufacturers are heading for in their smaller family cars as it ticks the marketing boxes/ requirements.

I agree, we are not quite there yet with 4mi/kWh at motorway speeds in winter, maybe that is too much of an ask. The Ioniq38 could do it though, with decade-old tech on an ICEV platform, and the TM3 is on the cusp.

The problem is that we keep getting offered big inefficient SUVs where manufacturers try to solve the problem of getting a decent range figure by fitting a bigger battery. I'd rather they solve that problem with better efficiency.

My main point is that WE DO NOT NEED FASTER CHARGING! We need more 50kW chargers.

[Sim_C]

My main point is that WE DO NOT NEED FASTER CHARGING! We need more 50kW chargers.

Agreed, as long as the 50 kW chargers actually achieve that rate and do not drop to 25 kW because 2 chargers are sharing a restricted feed.
More 50 kW chargers means less waiting time compared with now when they are commonly all occupied and you are playing the guessing game as to who will finish first and who is next to charge.

It is so frustrating when paying a premium for a rapid charge when the result is not much faster than the cheaper 11 kW 3-phase AC.

[Stinsy]

My main point is that WE DO NOT NEED FASTER CHARGING! We need more 50kW chargers.

Agreed, as long as the 50 kW chargers actually achieve that rate and do not drop to 25 kW because 2 chargers are sharing a restricted feed.
More 50 kW chargers means less waiting time compared with now when they are commonly all occupied and you are playing the guessing game as to who will finish first and who is next to charge.

It is so frustrating when paying a premium for a rapid charge when the result is not much faster than the cheaper 11 kW 3-phase AC.

And you can do something with your time! Imagine a MSA with 10x 350kW chargers, there could be 20-30 cars in the queue. Whereas with the same power you could fit 70x 50kW chargers, have no queue, and if you need loads of charge you can sit and have a coffee.