Russian Electric Vehicle Chargers Hacked, Tell Users ‘PUTIN IS A DICKHEAD’

[billi]

I guess , thats the most dramatic news about that war ...... electric car charging stations down

No, but Ukrainian indirect fire capabilities or the inability of the Russian army to use encrypted communications didn't seem of much interest to the denizens of this forum. A story about electric car charging station software seemed like it would be of interest.

Well , me included , was a success ( a sad one though )

by the hour, it seems like a wake up call , to realize what is happening , on all sorts of levels

[Moxi]

I agree JB, anything that isolates Mr Putin from his support base and makes him reconsider a peaceful resolution should have the majority of peoples support never did money speak louder in this global economy than it does now and for once the control of it by the mass populace can be conducted irrespective of government dictate.

I will endeavour to avoid purchases that line his coffers and to that end I have to applaud Mr Gus in his knowledge of who owns what and where for improving my awareness.

As you say Billi, its sobering to realise how fragile things can become in such a short space of time - COVID was a wake up call and this latest man made catastrophe simply underlines that we should not take our lot for granted.

Moxi

[billi]

As you say Billi, its sobering to realise how fragile things can become in such a short space of time - COVID was a wake up call and this latest man made catastrophe simply underlines that we should not take our lot for granted.

Moxi

Well Moxi that truth is heartbreaking one catastrophe follows the next , seems people or folks dont get a rest , while the urgent things to get attention to , are getting parallelized . !

[Adokforme]

Appalled by the events taking place in Ukraine and the inevitable outcome unless the status quo is altered, am I the only one who feels the rest of the free world could be doing something more than appears to be the case presently?

[Paul_F]

Appalled by the events taking place in Ukraine and the inevitable outcome unless the status quo is altered, am I the only one who feels the rest of the free world could be doing something more than appears to be the case presently?

We've done the relatively easy stuff, and that's going to cripple the Russian economy over the medium/long term. We've supplied Ukraine with lots of weapons with more to come. The usual suggestions of what else we could do (no-fly zone, etc.) basically mean we're committing to joining Ukraine in a shooting war with Russia - and that means four of the five official nuclear weapons states would be shooting at each other. Not a good idea.

The reality with this sort of thing is that the Soviet Russian army has enough in stock that unless we (NATO as a whole) joins in or the soldiers mutiny (already starting to happen in small numbers, allegedly) there's very little we can do about it. What we can do is support Ukraine with cash and weapons, and ensure that Russia is crippled economically in future with nowhere else to attack without triggering NATO Article V. That's what's happening right now - damage control against the future, rather than Ukraine.

[Adokforme]

Thanks Paul, I welcome your explanation and it is indeed reassuring to learn that so much assistance is on its way, even though against seemingly improbable odds.
Guess my motivation for posting was that should Ukraine be overwhelmed, which would be the next eastern European country under threat and In years to come would the free world look back to wonder if there wasn't more that could have been done to avert such a disaster!

[Mr Gus]

The fact that the convoys are "breaking down" "out of fuel" "out of supplies" "crawling" at a standstill & remaining around 30km from (for example Kyiv) bodes well I think for now, for the conscripted grunts who are realising what sacrificial lamb means & how much value Putin places on their lives.

The russian army is deemed the least valuable of the forces by govt, we know that, they do too, you are mere fodder, an incentive not to go gung ho if ever I saw one.

I feel that some officers are assisting the "held back" queues of transport waiting for something to happen back in Moscow (around 875 km up the road) along the lines of regime change / mutiny & thus are sending back excuses not to go in from ukraine which few can check, ..at least that's what I want to happen if not already in motion.

There will always be some glory chasers (presumably where the action is, more fervency than regular units) but imagine if told "its an exercise" then the reality takes the face of your mate out, ..smart phones are ratcheting up information, via phone, text, back door software.

Little action against ukrainian road blocking protesters, either a good sign or what the smiley faced actions of the Nazi's before liquidation of the masses in some events, we had tank blocking for a good deal of time in Tiananmen square in 89 before it went awry, all delay is good for wearing down the morale of conscripts & getting fact out there.

6000+ protesters "reported" marched off to jail..in a country that doesn't like reporting numbers where fact is concerned, how to take that? accurate or considerably downplayed?

If the russian public are playing up to this extent, this publicly then there is hope, because there will also be a lot of mothers pressuring their conscripted sons via texts & calls, & decent, albeit conflicted officers too.

I have had the radio on 24/7 & refreshing the news every few minutes, the other day? (night) there was comment on how the ukrainians were leaving the convoys alone & vice versa, with a bit of mutual understanding that's been played out via captured prisoners too, that the aggression is primarily from those in office & those in the field will try to avoid instigating a fire fight across a quiet front.

[Paul_F]

Guess my motivation for posting was that should Ukraine be overwhelmed, which would be the next eastern European country under threat and In years to come would the free world look back to wonder if there wasn't more that could have been done to avert such a disaster!

Next one in line in our part of the world is pretty clearly Moldova. Formerly part of the Soviet Union, there's a breakaway region (Transnistria) with Russian "peacekeepers" present and it's the last former Soviet/Warsaw Pact state not in NATO.
Having said that, even if the Russians win in Ukraine (far from certain given their miserable performance to date) it's going to gut the Russian army for a decade. They're facing an economic contraction of perhaps 50% in dollar terms, losing a lot of fairly new kit (details here - something like 3-5% of their total vehicle park so far) and have already failed in their strategic objective.
The plan - if you can call it that - appears to have been essentially to carry out a coup d'état in Ukraine, install a compliant new leader and leave. That plan is dead - any other leader is only going to remain in power if surrounded by Russian tanks, and the number of troops they've committed to date is nothing like enough to occupy a country the size of Ukraine against a hostile populace. If they do, they're facing a massive insurgency funded and supplied with advanced weapons by the West.

The fact that the convoys are "breaking down" "out of fuel" "out of supplies" "crawling" at a standstill & remaining around 30km from (for example Kyiv) bodes well I think for now, for the conscripted grunts who are realising what sacrificial lamb means & how much value Putin places on their lives.

Maybe - there are certainly persistent reports that they've been sabotaging their own vehicles (mostly leaks in fuel tanks) to avoid fighting. However, for that particular convoy it's pretty clear that the main issue is piss-poor command & control coupled with mechanical reliability problems.

I have had the radio on 24/7 & refreshing the news every few minutes, the other day? (night) there was comment on how the ukrainians were leaving the convoys alone & vice versa, with a bit of mutual understanding that's been played out via captured prisoners too, that the aggression is primarily from those in office & those in the field will try to avoid instigating a fire fight across a quiet front.

Don't read too much into that. **If** there is any such understanding, it's very much one-sided - even the Russian-speaking bits of Ukraine seem to be very strongly against the Russian invasion, and are becoming increasingly embittered. For now captured conscripts are being treated well (at least when on TV - arguably part of the Ukrainian information ops which are absolutely top notch), but I wouldn't bet on that lasting.

[Adokforme]

My that's quite some quantity of documented evidence contained there from both sides and hitherto unseen, by me at least. It doesn't in anyway reduce the enormity of what is happening or the scale of tragedy affecting the whole populace yet does offer a glimmer of hope that all may not be entirely lost!

[Mr Gus]

There is 31minutes of tracer fire video around the big 6? reactor site,
Threats to staff there.
Now just after midnight reports the place is on fire, early reports, an oh f*** moment nonetheless.

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Ukrainian atomic energy authorities have posted video online showing tracer fire at Ukraine’s biggest atomic plant, Zaporizhzhya