On the French side seems interestingKrill wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:38 pmWithout looking at any figures, it seems like the test case in a permenantly occupied home seems wisest, work out the potential pitfalls and then roll it out to other properties as resources allow when you can weight up if it is better to do something else first? Looking at this as a resource allocation issue, rather than viability.Joeboy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:17 pmThere are fit's here but I wouldn't pursue them as it would be a heavy investment and not quite in line with my small scale goals.Krill wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:47 am
Playing devils advocate, because I agree that small scale solar PV without a battery should be installed on every house and apartment, but there is a difference between the investment in a property that is occupied close to 100% of the time (especially when looking at such low loads) and a holiday home that is occupied maybe 10 weeks of the year (guessing on this, but the point holds).
Joe, what's the usage like when you aren't at the property, and are there any feed in tariffs available?
I Don't actually know the usage. Genuinely the first time I've looked at the meter was this morning. There are meter people who take readings each month and it comes off dd. I'd guess £20 a month across 7 or 8 months occupied? Nothing really and I'd do it not for financial reasons but to be self sufficient to a greater degree and because the suns there every day. I'll know in the next few days our average Summer day use. It won't be much!
Partly wondering because I have family that have properties in France and the resource allocation is a real point. The property in the UK needs renovation but they would not do that, and solar PV places a barrier to what needs to be done, but the property in France is done and would generate roughly 30% more power for the same kWp installed.
I don't think anyone on this forum would argue with putting up more panels, but the question of "At what cost?" is always worth discussing, even if in none financial perspectives. For example, the factories only make so many panels a week, only so many get transported to X location, so prioritisation matters.
. The 'at what cost' question is unique to each individual.I think without flattery that 'we' are slightly ahead of the mainstream curve and miles ahead of govt way of thinking? I would be sourcing directly from China and shipping to a year round expat friend here in the village or myself. No EU required. Oh, it's SO tempting, bet I could buy it, have it shipped and fit it before I go home next month?
That is when I go to my good old moral default statement and brake. 'Just because you can, doesn't mean you should'. I'll leave it as a thought exercise for the moment knowing that I could timeshift 90% of the load onto the dayshift via mechanical timed plugs..
As to and fair point on the amount of panels leaving the world's factories and their priority use in 100% occupied properties. I see your point and it is without a doubt valid.
Although until I see repeated press articles on pv panel shortage and Johnny average (not to be confused with Johnny wan spanner) swinging into action I won't worry.
The only reason I'm not hitting the button like a madman is that SWMBO would give me one of those looks, you know the one?
,I'll have to try a night without bedroom aircon. Run a fan instead.
