Jean Pain Pile
Jean Pain Pile
I've been wanting to have a go at this for some time now
but sooo many other projects to finish first
Permaculturenews.org article
but sooo many other projects to finish first
Permaculturenews.org article
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Re: Jean Pain Pile
There are a few parts of that article that caused me to raise an eyebrow.
When I got to:
When I got to:
I stopped reading…Once compressed, it has all the same uses as other compressed gas, including running diesel engines with a slight modification to the carburetor.
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Re: Jean Pain Pile
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12kWh 210ltr HWT.
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Re: Jean Pain Pile
He used the methane to power a Citroen 2CX, amongst other things.
Re: Jean Pain Pile
Yes, a mistake by the Permaculture writer.
Jean Pain piles are very much worth doing.
I wouldn't bother with the methane side of
things, but space heating and hot water at
60 degrees is very useful.
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Re: Jean Pain Pile
When I read the article I loved the idea of spaceheating from composting piles. Plus thermosiphon, a cherry on the cake.
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Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Re: Jean Pain Pile
I came across a guy who built a huge insulated rotating composter for heating his house - it rotates back and forth with a motor, and has a blower to bring in oxygen. It's a lot of work I think, but very interesting. I'd love to see it in action somehow! I briefly thought about making one, but there doesn't seem an easy way to dip your toe into something like that, and Mrs RobL thinks I'm mad enough already. Committing to a life of double mowing, drying, bagging, storing, etc seems like hard work. I think there is a fire risk too. I've had a go calculating how much biomass we could grow on our land, and I don't think it would quite be enough - I think 100m^2 could give enough dry material to release 1MWh of heat every year, if the right stuff is growing, so maybe we could get 2 or 3MWh. To make up the shortfall in winter I'd be wandering down the street "borrowing" green wheelie bins.... It's perhaps suitable for somebody with a huge "yard", and a sit on lawnmower.
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Re: Jean Pain Pile
Wasn't one of the contributors to the old place getting his hot water from compost piles ? I seem to recall some photos of black HDPE pipe work and I think it was even used as their Avatar ??
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The pile would have to be next to your house though and is bound to be a bit wiffy...robl wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:25 pm I came across a guy who built a huge insulated rotating composter for heating his house - it rotates back and forth with a motor, and has a blower to bring in oxygen. It's a lot of work I think, but very interesting. I'd love to see it in action somehow! I briefly thought about making one, but there doesn't seem an easy way to dip your toe into something like that, and Mrs RobL thinks I'm mad enough already. Committing to a life of double mowing, drying, bagging, storing, etc seems like hard work. I think there is a fire risk too. I've had a go calculating how much biomass we could grow on our land, and I don't think it would quite be enough - I think 100m^2 could give enough dry material to release 1MWh of heat every year, if the right stuff is growing, so maybe we could get 2 or 3MWh. To make up the shortfall in winter I'd be wandering down the street "borrowing" green wheelie bins.... It's perhaps suitable for somebody with a huge "yard", and a sit on lawnmower.
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Re: Jean Pain Pile
Not to mention aspergillus mould spores
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Growatt SPA3000TL BL inverter ac coupled
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