37GWp of UK solar projects pipelined

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That's why I can't find any decent panels for my barn :<
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When the sun shines just this new "pipeline" solar will fulfil all our grid needs. Not counting existing solar!

Not counting wind, not counting nuclear/FF gas that cannot be turned off.

Suddenly "storage" becomes our biggest problem!
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Stinsy wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:53 am When the sun shines just this new "pipeline" solar will fulfil all our grid needs. Not counting existing solar!

Not counting wind, not counting nuclear/FF gas that cannot be turned off.

Suddenly "storage" becomes our biggest problem!
Not quite as it will be a bit like Nowty Towers, yes in Summer, but no in Winter.
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Since power consumption tends to peak in the evening when PV output is already dropping is it likely that any of these developments will include some storage to allow shifting of grid supply to the peak evening time (at least in summer)? I guess it might also allow a smaller (less expensive) connection to the grid if they can store and spread the power they produce.
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nowty wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:20 pm
Stinsy wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:53 am When the sun shines just this new "pipeline" solar will fulfil all our grid needs. Not counting existing solar!

Not counting wind, not counting nuclear/FF gas that cannot be turned off.

Suddenly "storage" becomes our biggest problem!
Not quite as it will be a bit like Nowty Towers, yes in Summer, but no in Winter.
My point was "when the sun shines" the grid will be massively oversupplied!
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Stinsy wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:05 pm
nowty wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:20 pm
Stinsy wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:53 am When the sun shines just this new "pipeline" solar will fulfil all our grid needs. Not counting existing solar!

Not counting wind, not counting nuclear/FF gas that cannot be turned off.

Suddenly "storage" becomes our biggest problem!
Not quite as it will be a bit like Nowty Towers, yes in Summer, but no in Winter.
My point was "when the sun shines" the grid will be massively oversupplied!
Yep, gonna need some storage. Great chance to encourage street and workplace charging for BEV's when folk are in work.

Germany already has ~54GWp, and are aiming to install over 15GWp pa for a 200GWp figure at the end of 2030.
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exactly , as somewhere that electricity has to come from , in a more and more electric world

heating , hot water , electric transport , P2G , .... , export
Germany already has ~54GWp, and are aiming to install over 15GWp pa for a 200GWp figure at the end of 2030.
True and newbuilts must have to have a PV roof , but will see what comes true
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well typical coincidence this morning , that this Graph was just published

For many reasons it makes sense to connect renewable sources , overcoming national borders

The so called " intermittency " just for Wind and Solar power discussion , seems a bit "over-accelerated" in my eyes

and a clever network between countries might be reducing a lot of (national) storage


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billi wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:42 am well typical coincidence this morning , that this Graph was just published

For many reasons it makes sense to connect renewable sources , overcoming national borders

The so called " intermittency " just for Wind and Solar power discussion , seems a bit "over-accelerated" in my eyes

and a clever network between countries might be reducing a lot of (national) storage


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That's a real eye opener billi. When Sarah Merrick advised that wind tends to cover the months when solar declines I naturally took it onboard but hadn't appreciated how closely that trend has been followed for the last decade. Appreciate we are still going to require a huge capacity of storage in the uk to make up for slack periods.
Talking of slack periods, then accelerating the development and build out of tidal energy must surely be forcussed upon too!
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