ASHP & triple glazing

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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Fintray wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:34 pm
Joeboy wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:40 pm
Fintray wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:10 pm


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Don't think I'll bother with the 3G :whistle:
Well played Sir! :lol:

Did you get anywhere with the Sauchen folk?
I would imagine that if you catch it at the right time double digit readings would be possible.

Still thinking about it as whether to do the lot or just some.
I was surprised to see that today. It's obviously not real just the software counting on an inactive system. I'm sure it will work out whichever way you glaze.
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Ronski wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:41 pm
Joeboy wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:43 pm A good question, the oldest are coming up for 7 years (fit set up) and are 19% if I remember correctly. I really couldn't be bothered scrambling about on the incline. My Wombles ethos says they have a lot to yet give!

Don't worry, as it a FITS you can't do it yourself without losing the FITS payment, You'd need to use an MCS installer, it's even possible to now increase the size of a FITS system and the payments would be pro-rated.
If you keep the same kWp (with any extra kWp not going through the TGM) you don't need to tell your FIT provider anymore so DIY upgrades can be done. Its only if your doing an extension or reduction in kWp of the eligible installation you need to contact you FIT Licensee.

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/ ... rs_V18.pdf

3.34 You may repair or replace all or some generating equipment and retain the
installation’s accreditation, provided that the installation continues to meet the
scheme rules.
18.7kW PV > 110MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 33MWh generated
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Ronski wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:41 pm
Joeboy wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:43 pm A good question, the oldest are coming up for 7 years (fit set up) and are 19% if I remember correctly. I really couldn't be bothered scrambling about on the incline. My Wombles ethos says they have a lot to yet give!

Don't worry, as it a FITS you can't do it yourself without losing the FITS payment, You'd need to use an MCS installer, it's even possible to now increase the size of a FITS system and the payments would be pro-rated.
If you keep the same kWp (with any extra kWp not going through the TGM) you don't need to tell your FIT provider anymore so DIY upgrades can be done. Its only if your doing an extension or reduction in kWp of the eligible installation you need to contact your FIT Licensee.

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/ ... rs_V18.pdf

3.34 You may repair or replace all or some generating equipment and retain the
installation’s accreditation, provided that the installation continues to meet the
scheme rules.
18.7kW PV > 110MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 33MWh generated
7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
90kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 530 m3
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Joeboy wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:43 pm
Stinsy wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:08 pm
Joeboy wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:12 am

I'll be deid!
How efficient are your oldest panels?

Modern panels are so cheap that it is worthwhile swapping them out! I've heard of 2kWp arrays being switched out for 4kWp. Taking advantage of both better efficiency and covering more of the roof...
A good question, the oldest are coming up for 7 years (fit set up) and are 19% if I remember correctly. I really couldn't be bothered scrambling about on the incline. My Wombles ethos says they have a lot to yet give!
You can buy panels with 25% efficiency so that is 32% more electric out of the same area. If you can buy panels that are better-sized and therefore cover more of the roof then 50% uptick would seem reasonable.

Worth thinking about.
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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NoraBatty wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:45 pm
Joeboy wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:47 pm Vanport has commenced with ground broken. It's basically going to be a bigger version of the bootroom. 6mtr x 5mtr with a 3 mtr uncovered courtyard type deal at the front.

The materials list is out for quote on the secondhand, cash market.

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Anyone got three 4mtr telegraph poles for cash? :ugeek:
Hmm.
Actually.
Give the vale hotel in fyvie a ring.. he seems to have a ton of stuff including telegraph poles in his car park.
What his plans are for them i dont know. Not looked recently as i drive past mind, they may be gone now, but been there 3 years so not likely 😂
I'll take a run over at the weekend. I thought that place was closed! I have three on s/by in Lossie but I couldn't put 3 up on the roof rack. 1 at a time local will be better.
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Joeboy wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:09 pm

I'll take a run over at the weekend. I thought that place was closed! I have three on s/by in Lossie but I couldn't put 3 up on the roof rack. 1 at a time local will be better.
Not closed no, but i dont think it will last much longer, locals are much more likely to support the legion if they fancy a drink, and there is not that much in passing trade for them anymore.
Hes taken to operating as a semi kind of scrap yard to bring in some extra cash, which has not helped trade at all as no one really wants to stay somewhere that looks like steptoes yard.

If i head out this week i will drop in and ask for you, to save a trip. :xl:
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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NoraBatty wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:45 pm
Joeboy wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:09 pm

I'll take a run over at the weekend. I thought that place was closed! I have three on s/by in Lossie but I couldn't put 3 up on the roof rack. 1 at a time local will be better.
Not closed no, but i dont think it will last much longer, locals are much more likely to support the legion if they fancy a drink, and there is not that much in passing trade for them anymore.
Hes taken to operating as a semi kind of scrap yard to bring in some extra cash, which has not helped trade at all as no one really wants to stay somewhere that looks like steptoes yard.

If i head out this week i will drop in and ask for you, to save a trip. :xl:
Thanks Nora, just sourced some 150mm sq posts, collecting tomorrow. 1 mile away. :D
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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nowty wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:22 pm If you keep the same kWp (with any extra kWp not going through the TGM) you don't need to tell your FIT provider anymore so DIY upgrades can be done. Its only if your doing an extension or reduction in kWp of the eligible installation you need to contact your FIT Licensee.

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/ ... rs_V18.pdf

3.34 You may repair or replace all or some generating equipment and retain the
installation’s accreditation, provided that the installation continues to meet the
scheme rules.
Yep, well aware of all of that, hence I've gone from a 4kWp FITS system to a total of 15.5 kWp system. FITS system and separate Victron system.

If you installed a separate system you've never had to tell your FITS provider, as far as I'm aware, you only had to inform them of changes to the FITS system, had mine installed since late 2015.
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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Ronski wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:04 pm
nowty wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:22 pm If you keep the same kWp (with any extra kWp not going through the TGM) you don't need to tell your FIT provider anymore so DIY upgrades can be done. Its only if your doing an extension or reduction in kWp of the eligible installation you need to contact your FIT Licensee.

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/ ... rs_V18.pdf

3.34 You may repair or replace all or some generating equipment and retain the
installation’s accreditation, provided that the installation continues to meet the
scheme rules.
Yep, well aware of all of that, hence I've gone from a 4kWp FITS system to a total of 15.5 kWp system. FITS system and separate Victron system.

If you installed a separate system you've never had to tell your FITS provider, as far as I'm aware, you only had to inform them of changes to the FITS system, had mine installed since late 2015.
You said,
"Don't worry, as it a FITS you can't do it yourself without losing the FITS payment, You'd need to use an MCS installer,............."

I'm making the point that you don't need an MCS installer to replace your existing FIT system as long as it remains the same kWp as you no longer need to inform the FIT Licensee that anything has changed. The FIT guidance has changed over the years.
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Re: ASHP & triple glazing

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nowty wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:22 pm You said,
"Don't worry, as it a FITS you can't do it yourself without losing the FITS payment, You'd need to use an MCS installer,............."

I'm making the point that you don't need an MCS installer to replace your existing FIT system as long as it remains the same kWp as you no longer need to inform the FIT Licensee that anything has changed. The FIT guidance has changed over the years.
I didn't realise you no longer needed to inform them of changes, as long as it stays the same kWp, that's another good bit of news.

But I do wonder what they'd have to say if it ever come light you'd diy'ed it, given how bureaucratic they can be.
provided that the installation continues to meet the scheme rules.
Probably a rule it can only be worked on by MCS certified company
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