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solar on windfarms?
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:55 pm
by Mr Gus
What is the perceived thought on solar farm amongst windfarms exactly?
(i.e has turbine sail sweep & shadow been measured as to reduced effectiveness properly in any proper scientific modelling, ditto for inactive periods?
Obviously the tower is always going to cast shadow.. but to what degree (looking at land use here) what is the cost day to day, seasonally etc..
Micro inverters tech n'all that are presumably used on modern large scale solar farms I presume? is double deployment possible?
Re: solar on windfarms?
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:58 pm
by Swwils
Ah yes all those famous onshore windfarm sites.
They have enough trouble putting them where they are needed in the first place.
Re: solar on windfarms?
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:30 pm
by Joeboy
Mr Gus wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:55 pm
What is the perceived thought on solar farm amongst windfarms exactly?
(i.e has turbine sail sweep & shadow been measured as to reduced effectiveness properly in any proper scientific modelling, ditto for inactive periods?
Obviously the tower is always going to cast shadow.. but to what degree (looking at land use here) what is the cost day to day, seasonally etc..
Micro inverters tech n'all that are presumably used on modern large scale solar farms I presume? is double deployment possible?
The time may yet come for this. Might not be in our generation though. Angel of the North type solar wings maybe with a nod to the ISS?
Re: solar on windfarms?
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:30 pm
by Joeboy
Swwils wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:58 pm
Ah yes all those famous onshore windfarm sites.
They have enough trouble putting them where they are needed in the first place.
Not a problem in Scotland.
Re: solar on windfarms?
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:22 pm
by nowty
Some info here on colocation.
https://www.cornwall-insight.com/wp-con ... -final.pdf
But my opinion for the UK where its windy like hilltops, its generally cloudy, but could work say in East Anglia, Cornwall or some other coastal locations.
Re: solar on windfarms?
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:39 am
by Joeboy
Enjoying the doc with my morning tea. It certainly supports Gus's idea and hits all the positives.
The whole no new WT's thing in England. What was the driver behind that? Surely it cant just be NIMBYism?
What happened to to idea of eminent domain in regard to siting WT's? I'd have thought that would have been the logical next move?
Re: solar on windfarms?
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:50 am
by dan_b
There's a site near the M25 around junction 19 or something like that where there's a solitary wind turbine near the top of a hill and there are some solar panels situated underneath it. Not many though.
Edit - it's the turbine at Kings Langley.
Re: solar on windfarms?
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:10 pm
by Windbag
I don't see the issue (at all) yes there is a bit of a shadow, but the is also no sun on a windy night that balances the books? Surely?
Re: solar on windfarms?
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:28 pm
by nowty
Windbag wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:10 pm
I don't see the issue (at all) yes there is a bit of a shadow, but the is also no sun on a windy night that balances the books? Surely?
Windbag, do you know your average annual solar and wind generation stats in kWh ?
Re: solar on windfarms?
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:52 am
by Windbag
Yes indeed. Why?