Facelift Model Y

[dan_b]

“Two weeks”

At this point the board of Tesla needs to step up and take back control.

[Mart]

How about a Vauxhall Vivaro? Not great range, but some of the SH models, are in the £20k's now, some 3yr+ under £20k.

Stats for a new 75kWh model.

Yeah. The new BEV Transit Custom/VW Transporter is in the same category. My problems are: 1) Van. 2) Range.

I get to Devon in one hop in my iD4 with a bit of traffic or a temporary speed limit. I’ve gotten used to that and a shorter-range vehicle would feel like a step backwards.

I really like the mahoosive estate car shape (Dad had a Granada), I can cope with a big 4x4, van might be a step too far.

Hi Stinsy. Another 'van' for your consideration. I know you don't want a van shape, but thought I'd mention just in case as the price may start in the low £30k's (but that's a small (for its size) battery model).

Kia PV5 revealed: brand's first van is radical VW ID Buzz rival

[Stinsy]

How about a Vauxhall Vivaro? Not great range, but some of the SH models, are in the £20k's now, some 3yr+ under £20k.

Stats for a new 75kWh model.

Yeah. The new BEV Transit Custom/VW Transporter is in the same category. My problems are: 1) Van. 2) Range.

I get to Devon in one hop in my iD4 with a bit of traffic or a temporary speed limit. I’ve gotten used to that and a shorter-range vehicle would feel like a step backwards.

I really like the mahoosive estate car shape (Dad had a Granada), I can cope with a big 4x4, van might be a step too far.

Hi Stinsy. Another 'van' for your consideration. I know you don't want a van shape, but thought I'd mention just in case as the price may start in the low £30k's (but that's a small (for its size) battery model).

Kia PV5 revealed: brand's first van is radical VW ID Buzz rival

TY

Yeah, the van thing doesn't do it for me. Nice to see some competition in that segment though.

I still don't understand the lack of full-size estate cars. I know they're not popular in the US, but Northern Europeans buy them in huge numbers!