Spaghetti

[Fintray]

Also bring back Lanzarote Sea Salt - harvested in sea fed salt pans. Less Sodium, lot more minerals.

You could try some slightly more local salt https://www.blackthornsalt.co.uk/

[AE-NMidlands]

When I was at school in the 1960's, the girls were all taught Domestic Science, which focussed on the science of food and how to make nutritious meals from basic ingredients. I caused a bit of a stir as when I stayed on to do an accelerated 6th year (first time our secondary modern had done it) I didn't have enough A level subjects to fill the curriculum. I was asked (or rather my parents were asked, I think) what additional subjects I should take, so I chose to do O level Domestic Science and O level Needlework, as I thought that both might be pretty useful.
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It's a great shame that kids don't seem to be taught these basics today. I strongly suspect that the initial problem was the politically correct crowd deciding that school subjects that were very gender-specific were no longer acceptable. I get that, but if I was able to study domestic science (which included basic home accounting as well) as the only 17 year old boy, in a class with about thirty 15/16 year old girls back in 1969, then I really cannot see why there was a problem in reality.

Good for you!
Our boys went to school during the Thatcher era when right-wing "advisors" (evangelists) were put into very influential positions regardless of knowledge or qualifications. A friend's wife's brother was one in the Dept of Ed, knew absolutely nothing about education apart from what he had recieved during his right-wing upbringing. I was appalled when I was told, avoided him at parties and managed not to get into a flaming row with the family...

It meant that schools were stopped from teaching how to cook (by diktat.) They did the infamous "design the packaging to encourage people to buy a box of (shite) junk-food snacks, or turkey twizzlers" or whatever instead of useful life skills.

So it's nothing to do with the politically correct crowd, more a determination of the exploiters to turn the population into helpless, ignorant consumers with no choice.

[billi]

Also bring back Lanzarote Sea Salt - harvested in sea fed salt pans. Less Sodium, lot more minerals.

You could try some slightly more local salt https://www.blackthornsalt.co.uk/

An absolute good example about the pervert food production on an Island that has no ground water , a lot of wind and a lot of sunshine , but still uses fossil fuels for example to destill salt water out of the sea via Diesel generators to please the tourists and their shower

[Bugtownboy]

Also bring back Lanzarote Sea Salt - harvested in sea fed salt pans. Less Sodium, lot more minerals.

You could try some slightly more local salt https://www.blackthornsalt.co.uk/

Love to, but when it’s 30x the cost (plus postage) it’s a hard shout.

[Bugtownboy]

Also bring back Lanzarote Sea Salt - harvested in sea fed salt pans. Less Sodium, lot more minerals.

You could try some slightly more local salt https://www.blackthornsalt.co.uk/

An absolute good example about the pervert food production on an Island that has no ground water , a lot of wind and a lot of sunshine , but still uses fossil fuels for example to destill salt water out of the sea via Diesel generators to please the tourists and their shower

I recognise the Canaries could use more solar and wind, although the number of WT has recently increased significantly.

But I don’t understand why fossil fuel use for desalination has to be related, in your response, to traditional sea salt production (https://salinasdejanubio.com/en/gama-productos/)

Unless you feel the bi product of desalination is used as sea salt ??

Or is tourism the issue ?

[Oldgreybeard]

Good for you!
Our boys went to school during the Thatcher era when right-wing "advisors" (evangelists) were put into very influential positions regardless of knowledge or qualifications. A friend's wife's brother was one in the Dept of Ed, knew absolutely nothing about education apart from what he had recieved during his right-wing upbringing. I was appalled when I was told, avoided him at parties and managed not to get into a flaming row with the family...

It meant that schools were stopped from teaching how to cook (by diktat.) They did the infamous "design the packaging to encourage people to buy a box of (shite) junk-food snacks, or turkey twizzlers" or whatever instead of useful life skills.

So it's nothing to do with the politically correct crowd, more a determination of the exploiters to turn the population into helpless, ignorant consumers with no choice.

Much as I'd like nothing better than to blame the Milk Snatcher, the change was before that woman buggered up society. I went back to my old school in 1973, to give the 5th/6th forms a talk about going to uni from a secondary modern (by then it had become a comprehensive) and they had abolished both domestic science and needlework. The new headmaster got shirty with me when I mentioned that they were the most useful classes I'd attended; he was clearly one of the putative PC nut jobs that seemed to take over education in the 1970's.

[billi]

You could try some slightly more local salt https://www.blackthornsalt.co.uk/

An absolute good example about the pervert food production on an Island that has no ground water , a lot of wind and a lot of sunshine , but still uses fossil fuels for example to destill salt water out of the sea via Diesel generators to please the tourists and their shower

I recognise the Canaries could use more solar and wind, although the number of WT has recently increased significantly.

But I don’t understand why fossil fuel use for desalination has to be related, in your response, to traditional sea salt production (https://salinasdejanubio.com/en/gama-productos/)

Unless you feel the bi product of desalination is used as sea salt ??

Or is tourism the issue ?

Diesel driven pumps/fossil fueled power tor making Sea Salt

[billi]

thats Lanzarote , one of their seas salt plants surely that Island could be 100 % renewable , but

[Bugtownboy]

I’m sure it could have greater renewables as a percentage of their electricity generation, Billi. As I stated, the number of WT’s has increased since we have been visiting.

Domestically, solar water heating is commonplace.

For some reason, and I don’t know if there is a central political perspective, PV does not have any significant penetration.

I agree, Lanzarote, given the amount of land opportunities, significant sunshine, and almost permanent wind, is an ideal community to be 100% renewables.

But, their sea salt is absolutely produced by renewable means.

[billi]

But, their sea salt is absolutely produced by renewable means.
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i doubt that , but fair enough lets believe in that .

So how to carry on ? Cheap food from fossil fueld economies ? Or are we prepared to pay a decent price for those products and support a infrastructure
at that place that grants a sustainable idea ?