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We're f**ked
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ergy-brief
It's almost as if they want the Country to go down the pan.
"common sense dictates that if the Meteorological Office cannot forecast the next season’s weather with any success it is ambitious to predict what will happen decades ahead."
and
"I would like my constituents to have cheap energy rather more than I would like them to have windmills."
also
"Net zero is going to be a huge regulatory cost and that is an issue for the country to face and to face up to … If we were to have a ‘one in, one out’ or ‘one in, two out’ rule [where a piece of regulation is scrapped for every new one instituted], you would end up excluding net zero, as we previously excluded EU regulation, and then you’re tinkering at the edges because you’re ignoring the biggest piece of regulation."
not the thoughts of anyone with more than half a dozen neurons
It's almost as if they want the Country to go down the pan.
"common sense dictates that if the Meteorological Office cannot forecast the next season’s weather with any success it is ambitious to predict what will happen decades ahead."
and
"I would like my constituents to have cheap energy rather more than I would like them to have windmills."
also
"Net zero is going to be a huge regulatory cost and that is an issue for the country to face and to face up to … If we were to have a ‘one in, one out’ or ‘one in, two out’ rule [where a piece of regulation is scrapped for every new one instituted], you would end up excluding net zero, as we previously excluded EU regulation, and then you’re tinkering at the edges because you’re ignoring the biggest piece of regulation."
not the thoughts of anyone with more than half a dozen neurons
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Re: We're f**ked
I fear you may be right. Quite apart from the obvious conflict of interest posed by him representing business on one hand and climate on the other, his track record is very much that of being a climate change denier.
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from the article:
Pretty dismal news, but a slight ray of hope at the end...Rees-Mogg has claimed that “climate alarmism” is responsible for high energy prices and that it is unrealistic for scientists to project future changes to the climate because meteorologists struggle to correctly predict the weather.
The new business secretary said in April that the government wanted “every last drop” of oil and gas to be extracted from the North Sea as he dismissed warnings that a renewed push for fossil fuels would ruin the UK’s chances of achieving net zero by 2050.
The cabinet minister also described the idea of reopening shale gas sites as “quite an interesting opportunity”, comparing the fracking threat to “a rock fall in a disused coalmine”.
Senior Tories admitted they were worried about Rees-Mogg’s appointment, with one former minister saying it was “not very encouraging” but that they hoped he would stick to Johnson’s commitment to reach net zero emissions by 2050.
One Tory MP suggested it was a “slim hope” that the new business secretary would recognise that tackling climate change was “an opportunity, not a cost”.
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Anyone with a modicum of common sense would realise weather and climate are two completely different things.spread-tee wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:28 pm https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ergy-brief
"common sense dictates that if the Meteorological Office cannot forecast the next season’s weather with any success it is ambitious to predict what will happen decades ahead."
He is an arcane anachronism with such self centred ideals - I really don’t see how he belongs in a modern, progressive government.
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From today's article on the same topic: (https://www.theguardian.com/global/2022 ... ergy-brief)
Tom Burke, co-founder of the green thintank E3G and a veteran adviser to governments, summed up the views of many: “He has showed no sign of understanding the complexity or opportunity of net zero. There is nothing in his whole track record that shows any understanding of this issue. The single most important thing to do in energy policy now is to bring demand down. I have no confidence that he will take this forward.”
An investor in oil and coal mining through Somerset Capital Management, the fund management firm he co-founded and still benefits from financially, Rees-Mogg has many times voiced climate denialism – even to the extent of misrepresenting climate science. In 2014, he told Chat Politics that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had found efforts to stop climate change would only work in the very long term.
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Re: We're f**ked
Rees-Mogg's off-shore investment vehicle Somerset Capital Management holds very large investment positions in several oil, coal and gas companies.
His interests are clear and obvious.
Worth remembering too that Liz Truss is an ex-employee of Shell.
I think the next 2 years are going to be excruciating.
His interests are clear and obvious.
Worth remembering too that Liz Truss is an ex-employee of Shell.
I think the next 2 years are going to be excruciating.
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2 years to take us back 70 years - listening to the rest of the cabinet (why mates and not the best person ), their views are depressing.dan_b wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:55 am Rees-Mogg's off-shore investment vehicle Somerset Capital Management holds very large investment positions in several oil, coal and gas companies.
His interests are clear and obvious.
Worth remembering too that Liz Truss is an ex-employee of Shell.
I think the next 2 years are going to be excruciating.
Now, I hope, the electorate are realising what a moderating influence being part of the EU was.
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It gets worse....
From here:- https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/202 ... iberalism/
The portent of things to come came when Truss’s senior adviser team was announced. Her economics advisers come from the Taxpayer’s Alliance and the Institute of Economic Affairs. Both are secretive far-right think tanks.
They hate government. They assume that whatever government does can be better done by markets. They don’t believe in the NHS. They think pension and care provision should be provided privately. They hate taxes. And now they are at the heart of government.
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"She managed to beat it, however, by appointing Jacob Rees Mogg to be Business Secretary, with responsibility for the environment. The man is a climate change denier. It is almost impossible to imagine a worse appointment.
Except for Suella Braverman as Home Secretary, who hates migrants.
Or Therese Coffey to Health, despite her dubious track record on abortion issues."
We just have to pray that they get wiped out in 2024,......... and Starmer grows a pair!
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From here:- https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/202 ... iberalism/
The portent of things to come came when Truss’s senior adviser team was announced. Her economics advisers come from the Taxpayer’s Alliance and the Institute of Economic Affairs. Both are secretive far-right think tanks.
They hate government. They assume that whatever government does can be better done by markets. They don’t believe in the NHS. They think pension and care provision should be provided privately. They hate taxes. And now they are at the heart of government.
and
"She managed to beat it, however, by appointing Jacob Rees Mogg to be Business Secretary, with responsibility for the environment. The man is a climate change denier. It is almost impossible to imagine a worse appointment.
Except for Suella Braverman as Home Secretary, who hates migrants.
Or Therese Coffey to Health, despite her dubious track record on abortion issues."
We just have to pray that they get wiped out in 2024,......... and Starmer grows a pair!
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Re: We're f**ked
I guess one potential ray of hope might still come from within the Tory Party - Truss has basically culled anyone from the Sunak-side of the party, and has done what Johnson did, surrounded herself by groupthinking loyalists. In doing so she may well have pissed off enough of the MPs for her to have a resentment group against her already. Remember, Johnson came to No10 with an apparently unassailable 80 seat majority and the popular support of the media - and yet he was defenestrated.
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That's true, apparently there are already rumours of letters to Graham Brady, she only really has the support of tory party members.
Small comfort for a Country that is suffering.
Desp..
Small comfort for a Country that is suffering.
Desp..
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