EV's with 300+ mile range?

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Re: EV's with 300+ mile range?

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Stinsy wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:57 pm Id3 is 340miles IIRC!

However why do you need 300 miles?

100+kW chargers are much more common common than before and add something like 200 miles in half an hour. 30p a kWh might sting a little compared with 5-15p at home but is economically irrelevant if we're talking a few times a year.

Don't forget you're paying to haul around that big battery all year on the 99% or more of journeys less than 100 miles.

Edit to add some thinking: My parents live 180miles from me door-to-door. So 200 miles of real world range, in winter, with my foot down, after a few years of battery deg, was a requirement. So the iD4 with 316 miles "official" range worked for me, the one with 213 miles notsomuch. If I didn't have that specific use-case I'd go for an EV with a smaller battery but ensure it could be charged at 100kW or more and just do occasional longer trips in a few more hops.
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Cheers Gus, the leaf thinking allowed for the van of enormous power (diesel transit connect) to do the Edinburgh run. As i'd be spending 5 to 6 times the max I've EVER went to on a car it will have to do that return trip with aplomb in its own wee closed system or I can't make the mental leap, Jockanese you see? Much tribal programming to get through. :)
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Joe, you need that test ride to help check your head #BeastieBoys
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Unless you "forget" to pre cool your car inna hot scottish summer you will be chilled, & even if you do forget, again the heating cooling is quick, 3 minutes does it for us normally on the drive when its sat at 37c interior ..no biggie.

As you aren't going for our "pauper mobile" :lol: you get a year of that internet thingy, so if you have netflix / amazon prime whatever ...time is a breeze, if on your own then why not simply pop in & argue on a certain soon to be well know renewables forum!? :shock:

it's going to be just like the leaf "a bit of winging it" (till you've got it down pat) you might want to keep your polar? RFID or similar handy as there's an option, but on the whole even though I don't think there's too many superchargers Edinburgh way right now (& they are close by) more are surely on the way, but as its CCS you have alternatives aplenty.

If it's "occasional" paid for charging "as & when" a brief sojourn is a mere blip...

When Wife & daughter went down to south coast a few weeks ago (from the fens) not knowing the route she stopped off for a quick top up "just in case" ..just enough time to pee (loo's were close by) & find a coffee shop wasn't open in blue water & walk back to the car, in the meantime I'd rung her to say "look at your phone" it had sped past the 80% mark & was caning into the mid 90's (that stop has an "Idling fee for blocking)

You'll be too busy enjoying your car to find it a bind.
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You are going to be the info man for those wondering how hills affect battery life.

Have you watched the Quentin wilson Tesla from UK to France trip on you-tube? (not Edinburgh but insightful)


What you will take away from it is how chilled it (the driving experience) becomes.
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Joeboy wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:23 pm When do you take delivery? I ask as a box opened up on some delays etc on my search beyond the scroll right bar.
December hopefully!

Ordered the iD4 way before Nowty ordered his Tesla and he’ll have his way before me.

Hopefully worth the wait!
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Stinsy wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:44 pm
Joeboy wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:23 pm When do you take delivery? I ask as a box opened up on some delays etc on my search beyond the scroll right bar.
December hopefully!

Ordered the iD4 way before Nowty ordered his Tesla and he’ll have his way before me.

Hopefully worth the wait!
I'm sure it will be well worth it, a cracking Xmas present.
I reckon Nowty's in for a cracking time too.
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Skoda Enyaq worth a look? Looks more on the way to an estate to me than the ID.4, and a bit cheaper (although there's quite a few must have options).

Problem is, I know I should push the boat out for the sake of the environment, but I've never bought a new car for financial reasons, so I'm minded to wait 6-12 months until the first second hand ones are available.

Although I do often come back to the MG5 a lot! It's so nearly there on so many fronts and so much better value.
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I keep watching Tesla M3 youtube video after video and have not found a negative one yet. Strange but I only starting watching them AFTER I ordered it.

This one today I thought was quite interesting, what I got from it comparing the Long Range v Performance model was,

The performance model is only a lot quicker up to around 30mph, after there is not much difference, and even more surprisingly from 70mph the long range version is slightly faster than the performance model, probably because of less drag from the more efficient wheels.

What really surprised me was that the upgraded brakes in the performance model did not stop the car any faster than the long range model. I guess they are only superior around a race track where the standard ones may suffer more from overheating.

In another video the performance version tyres were panned as they are poor at freezing temperatures and that pot holes can easily break the 20 inch wheels. So I am still glad of my choice of the Long Range version with the standard 18 inch aero wheels.

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GarethC wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:38 pm Skoda Enyaq worth a look? Looks more on the way to an estate to me than the ID.4, and a bit cheaper (although there's quite a few must have options).

Problem is, I know I should push the boat out for the sake of the environment, but I've never bought a new car for financial reasons, so I'm minded to wait 6-12 months until the first second hand ones are available.

Although I do often come back to the MG5 a lot! It's so nearly there on so many fronts and so much better value.
New cars don’t deprecate as fast as claimed. Depreciation figures always compare list price, but I’ve always tried to get at least 30% off list. I didn’t get anything near that off my iD4 but could have got 20% off an iD3. Remember the Phaeton? Widely panned for super-fast depreciation. You could buy one new with 60% off list, so in reality the depreciation wasn’t that bad.
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Joeboy wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:45 pm SWMBO & I have been having a look at various online examples of EV's. Hard to get an EV that will do 300 mile between charges. Looks like the Model 3 LR or the Ioniq 5 from Hyundai and even it is scraping the edge to get there. I had not realised the gap Tesla had in the range department. Any other models out there that get 300 to a charge? SWMBO detests the Polestar 2 and I see her point. :)

I'm not a fan of SUV/crossover type vehicles or would have maybe fancied going VW. Where's the 350 mile Golf? They've had plenty of time! :lol:
Just to throw a cat amongst the pigeons, whilst longer range is nice to have, ease and speed of charging is possibly more important. So given the extensive, and high speed Tesla supercharging network, you'd probably find that the TM3 SR+ with 200 mile jaunts between 20 min stops, as good, or even better, than a longer range non-Tesla vehicle.

Sadly the public charging network in the UK is still quite poor, so many locations won't tend to have as many chargers as the Supercharger locations, and there can be issues with those chargers. Not a massive negative, and things will improve, but Wifey and I had an absolute nightmare one day trying to charge a Leaf, whereas with the Tesla's, you simply select a supercharger on your route, on the nav screen, and as you get closer it'll start to pre-condition the battery, then when you arrive there is no faff, you just reverse in, pick up the charger, press the button on it, and that opens the charge flap on your car (as they've already carried out an electronic handshake).

This does sound a bit rude about non-Tesla's, for which I apologise.
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