Storage Heaters
Re: Storage Heaters
Went downstairs to make a cuppa this morning and the whole space was at 21 degs. Felt utterly decadent. I may have to.knock an hour off here and there on the SH charging window if this upward trend continues!
With the strong generation at WT1 yesterday we ran the house completely (73kWh) off wind and made 92p on top of that.
I am also seeing a fallback in power consumption over the last 5 days, I am hoping its the residual heat building up in the SH's over the 24hr cycle cutting them off earlier. We can but hope!
With the strong generation at WT1 yesterday we ran the house completely (73kWh) off wind and made 92p on top of that.
I am also seeing a fallback in power consumption over the last 5 days, I am hoping its the residual heat building up in the SH's over the 24hr cycle cutting them off earlier. We can but hope!
19.7kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN & DW
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
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Re: Storage Heaters
Photo of our hall thermostat a few moments ago, still no heating on yet, the bit of sunshine the day before yesterday was enough to push the house back to just over 22°C again (heating comes on if it drops to 21.5°C overnight, 21.0°C during the day). Mostly the lack of heating is down to the very mild weather, still sitting at 14°C outside here, even after the high winds and storm we had last night. Good advert for the benefits of a passive house, though, being able to keep the house this warm without any heating so far.
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That is great to see, swmbo & I speak about building a passivhaus. I am on the half kind of lookout for a bit of ground in Aberdeenshire but not seriously. If a perfect plot came on I'd get into it. We have 1kW+ incoming, solar gain and the WBS is off. Away to chop up a load of beech awkward sections then split to logs.Oldgreybeard wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:23 amPhoto of our hall thermostat a few moments ago, still no heating on yet, the bit of sunshine the day before yesterday was enough to push the house back to just over 22°C again (heating comes on if it drops to 21.5°C overnight, 21.0°C during the day). Mostly the lack of heating is down to the very mild weather, still sitting at 14°C outside here, even after the high winds and storm we had last night. Good advert for the benefits of a passive house, though, being able to keep the house this warm without any heating so far.
Thermostat.jpg
19.7kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN & DW
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
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0 degrees and freezing fog this morning. SH are doing well. 18.6 degs downstairs and 17.2 deg upstairs. I have set all storage heaters to max charge window this fine brisk morning until this cold spell breaks (April).
19.7kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN & DW
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
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I too dream about building my own house! Lots of “passivehaus” I see have c. 2kWp of solar whereas I’d go for 8-12kWp on a roof designed specifically to be big enough and correctly aligned. We were watching an old episode of “Grand Designs” the other day and SWMBO remarked that “they haven’t put many solar panels on that roof” regarding the off-grid eco house on that episode. Panels are now so cheap that the sums add up so much easier than they did 10-20 years ago.Joeboy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:25 amThat is great to see, swmbo & I speak about building a passivhaus. I am on the half kind of lookout for a bit of ground in Aberdeenshire but not seriously. If a perfect plot came on I'd get into it. We have 1kW+ incoming, solar gain and the WBS is off. Away to chop up a load of beech awkward sections then split to logs.Oldgreybeard wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:23 amPhoto of our hall thermostat a few moments ago, still no heating on yet, the bit of sunshine the day before yesterday was enough to push the house back to just over 22°C again (heating comes on if it drops to 21.5°C overnight, 21.0°C during the day). Mostly the lack of heating is down to the very mild weather, still sitting at 14°C outside here, even after the high winds and storm we had last night. Good advert for the benefits of a passive house, though, being able to keep the house this warm without any heating so far.
Thermostat.jpg
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3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
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Re: Storage Heaters
Oh I wish for those temperatures. The guys have rocked up for the ceiling repair, they say it's minus 3 and certainly I've just gritted the front path.
I have planted the seed in SWMBO's head, we'll see how it goes.
I have planted the seed in SWMBO's head, we'll see how it goes.
19.7kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN & DW
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
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Re: Storage Heaters
When I built this place I fitted as many panels on the almost south facing roof as would fit. There's only a slim band of slate along the sides and along the ridge, the rest of the roofing is panels (25 of them). The cost wasn't that high, even back in 2014, as I saved the cost of the slates that would otherwise have been there, plus the cost of the labour to fit the slates. About half the cost of the panels was covered by that saving in roofing cost, plus we had scaffolding up anyway for the roofers, so the payback time came down to about 4 years. With the reduced cost of panels now, plus the improvements in performance, the payback time would most probably be shorter.Stinsy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:26 am I too dream about building my own house! Lots of “passivehaus” I see have c. 2kWp of solar whereas I’d go for 8-12kWp on a roof designed specifically to be big enough and correctly aligned. We were watching an old episode of “Grand Designs” the other day and SWMBO remarked that “they haven’t put many solar panels on that roof” regarding the off-grid eco house on that episode. Panels are now so cheap that the sums add up so much easier than they did 10-20 years ago.
25 off 250W Perlight solar panels, installed 2014, with a 6kW PowerOne inverter, about 6,000kWh/year generated
6 off Pylontech US3000C batteries, with a Sofar ME3000SP inverter
6 off Pylontech US3000C batteries, with a Sofar ME3000SP inverter
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Hi Joe,
Quick question on page 14 you pointed out that the heater was off and still outputting 98deg.
I know you run yours on a smart plug, but how do you manage it, is it on all night like an E7 time period or on and off via the smart plug to limit energy consumption?
Interested as my first storage heater arrives this week!
Cheers
Quick question on page 14 you pointed out that the heater was off and still outputting 98deg.
I know you run yours on a smart plug, but how do you manage it, is it on all night like an E7 time period or on and off via the smart plug to limit energy consumption?
Interested as my first storage heater arrives this week!
Cheers
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Hi AGT, congratulations on the new SH! We charge them up using the Octopus Go window. If we have excess solar in the shoulder months I will manually bring on a 850W heater via a hive plug. In general though it's fixed charging through the night.AGT wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:49 am Hi Joe,
Quick question on page 14 you pointed out that the heater was off and still outputting 98deg.
I know you run yours on a smart plug, but how do you manage it, is it on all night like an E7 time period or on and off via the smart plug to limit energy consumption?
Interested as my first storage heater arrives this week!
Cheers
What type and size of SH did you go for?
19.7kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN & DW
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
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@AGT, do you know the kWh capacity of the arriving storage heater ?, or even the power input in watts.
I'm collecting info on members energy storage capacity now and we are now over 3MWh's.
Same request goes for others on here.
I'm collecting info on members energy storage capacity now and we are now over 3MWh's.
Same request goes for others on here.
17.5kW PV > 109MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 25MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 25MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3