London Ambulance Service gets into EVs

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Stinsy wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:58 am The original basis of the welfare state was that it would be “universal” however over time it has evolved into a dichotomy with people who pay in and people who take out being disparate groups. The lazy and feckless get everything they need for free. The hardworking and prudent get nothing.
I think it's fair to say we are on the same wavelength.
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Thebeeman wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:36 am
Stinsy wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:58 am The original basis of the welfare state was that it would be “universal” however over time it has evolved into a dichotomy with people who pay in and people who take out being disparate groups. The lazy and feckless get everything they need for free. The hardworking and prudent get nothing.
I think it's fair to say we are on the same wavelength.
Yet the gini index has increased by 1.5% annually for the last few years and sits at 40% up from 20% in the late 70s which shows the rich have increased their wealth as the poor get less. Given that the wealthy have a greater propensity for consumption and pollution we have got where we are because of this disparity.
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I am staunch NHS, so is the wife (nurse) however, as stated before, her working with heart specialists at Papworth (sod the "royal") was put to me that the surgery is private, everything else was fairly standard (though a modern unit that she settled on for a hospital that dated back to the 30's TB huts
Every "PJ" funded a few more NHS surgeries, so it was hard to argue with the drip, drip into the books.

Wife used to recommend, simply getting a private consult over waiting, ..if it sounded bad, that way you were lined up as a proper order of priority based on need within a slow responding NHS elsewhere.

ERGO, you were still NHS all the way through, but you simply got to see the specialist within a fortnight, a letter back to a doctor (arse kicking or otherwise) & calmed or assured were on your way on a genuine "order of priority list" (saw so many cancellations due to that list, which when you consider 3 operating theatres were in nigh on constant use, ..a surgeon concentrating operating on their feet for maybe 14 hours solid, if not a small job, with a lot of problems stemming from patients who thought for a vaiety of reasons (& not enough explanation on the way in) that lists apply, & depending on many other factors, blue lights, sudden deterioration of others on lists, the fact that papworth did work no-one else would nor could touch (yet were subject to the same ratings for live / dead through the doors as elsewhere) ..sorting bodges, etc may have to wait a few days, weeks, or more, but a bed meant they were on the queue for take-off (nurses are too damn busy to spend the necessary 10-20 mins explaining what hasn't been read / issued as to operations within hospitals.

Eg "private" = the consult, & the the op, likely not the bed, food, room nor aftercare ..you are back on the NHS unless otherwise stated.

The anger & demands of indignant family are a constant, tie you up, & NHS management is shittily top heavy.

12 hour shifts are beyond healthy.
Tie in lack of time down for a break, lunch, whatever, ..hospitals moving an hours drive down the road (inc parking fee's & walking through the door, then getting changed) but it is "convenient" for accountants, breaking the workforce.


Where it did piss us off though was letting those who conned treatment who were illegally in the country away scot free (the funding for several experienced nurses for a year) ..& the "collapse on entry to the uk" from india that proliferated & queue jumped on purpose & were priority treated.

So, if worried then scrape together the cash for a private consult & get proper (not unnecessary) prioritisation ..the rest is likely nhs.

(wife when a bed manager who walked floors, now pizza boy equivalent spare bed counters) used to read charts, note patients health . decline & then speak to the surgeons under whom they were under, this has since been phased out by hospitals such as papworth & undoubtedly costs lives.

"we just want you to count beds" ..support your NHS, but question stupidity within, do you want a dedicated bed manager checking on you (because likely ward staff are too busy beyond charting) or leave it in the hands of a fecking medically unqualified person who can count" apparant" bed spaces (oft hidden) & deal with hospitals bed blocking, & denying the treat & return arrangement remniscent of Radar & sparky on M.A.S.H. ?

"PJ's" ,,not necessarily clear cut, but yes we are sliding into privatisation which is going unchecked.

PFI, not PPI (oops)
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PS, if you look for EV chargers at hospitals they were / are completely unaware as to how many, where, or even why they are on their grounds of the new hospitals where car parking was promised as part of the build (new papworth, multi storey car parking) which was taken over by addenbrookes staff (same boat, never enough parking for your staff & not factored into efficiency) which was then immediately rented out to a private parking firm for likely 25 years ..sold down the river, adding to the stress before you even get to work.

So I find EV in hospital stock laughable based on previous experience as to being lastminuteplasterers.com they had years to plan this, but haven't yet rolled out proper plans in 2023, not even looking at the future in 2015, nor 2021, so expect bad things.

The "ten times the range of typical daily use" quote was typical bollocks, fast response is just that, foot heavy, ..decimating miles & energy whilst crashing through pot holes. ..that is fine for the gullible & stupid but doesn't really mean much to anyone who understands how driving an ev actually works & returns obtained.

New hospitals such as "new" papworth, intended to be absorbed by addenbrookes before the ink was dry were not designed with the future in mind beyond PPI :cry:
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Mr Gus wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:42 am 12 hour shifts are beyond healthy.
Tie in lack of time down for a break, lunch, whatever, ..hospitals moving an hours drive down the road (inc parking fee's & walking through the door, then getting changed) but it is "convenient" for accountants, breaking the workforce.
Too right and the snatched cup of tea and obligatory biscuits mean many ward staff are on unhealthy diets, tending to obesity and much increased risks, particularly gut cancers. Yet on no way could I persuade my granddaughter, ambulance tech and nursing assistant, to lose weight.
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Yup, older staff, (with all the experience & resolve) don't want 12 hour misery (that can be more like 15+ ) another reason they leave the profession.

A tired professional having to prep drugs several times per day, calculate drip rate etc? whilst running hell for leather from pillar to post? ..would be a major issue anywhere else.

Instead we have "voting fraud" to keep simple minds busy with, ,,it has never been a big thing within the public, but it has been a thing amongst corrupt politicians & their ilk, so why is it on us? (does this mean no posted voting slip & it simply saves cash for govt but hasn't been presented as such)?

Politicians are the backbone of voting fraud, look at the uk history of it in recent decades.
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