Model Y is now available uk.

[Joeboy]

Any Tesla guys up to speed on V2H/V2G or thoughts on the timeline before its a useable service?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/electrek ... tures/amp/

P.S TSLA $871.80....

[Adokforme]

Thanks for posting Joeboy, a rumour about the very same was floating around a year or two back so perhaps there was some truth in it after all!
I don't know why Tesla have concerns about acceptance by consumers of V2G as I'm all for it and chose the Nissan Leaf almost entirely because of this ability. It's been frustrating since not being able to activate it. I applied to be included in two V2G trials but due to having more than 4kWp output from our array the units being trialled were not capable of limiting export to the grid to 10kW. I believe they would need to be G99 or G100 compliant in order for us to take part which at the time they were not. Don't know if anything has changed since. But if they are set on charging £5k for the package then I suspect there will be little demand, even if they are compliant.

[Joeboy]

Thanks for posting Joeboy, a rumour about the very same was floating around a year or two back so perhaps there was some truth in it after all!
I don't know why Tesla have concerns about acceptance by consumers of V2G as I'm all for it and chose the Nissan Leaf almost entirely because of this ability. It's been frustrating since not being able to activate it. I applied to be included in two V2G trials but due to having more than 4kWp output from our array the units being trialled were not capable of limiting export to the grid to 10kW. I believe they would need to be G99 or G100 compliant in order for us to take part which at the time they were not. Don't know if anything has changed since. But if they are set on charging £5k for the package then I suspect there will be little demand, even if they are compliant.

No worries, £5k makes it a place I will not be. TBH I'm not that interested in V2G unless I can be sold on it as a green social endeavour that I participate in at no cost. V2H though would be magnificent for the excess storage cap. Again though, I had hoped that this would be available through the home car charger. Very strange that this appears to not be the case...What a waste of decentralised strategically placed latent battery capacity across the islands.

Off my soapbox, this looks promising..
https://wallbox.com/en_uk/quasar-dc-charger

Found an article on Model Y production figures in Shanghai. 1,000 Y's per day being built & 800 3's. A mind blowing couple of figures.

https://www.electrive.com/2021/08/23/te ... -shanghai/

I love the idea that a random drone pilot from the area is estimating these figures from movement seen at the factory!

[John_S]

Off my soapbox, this looks promising..
https://wallbox.com/en_uk/quasar-dc-charger

On reading the detailed specs, it is only available with a CHAdeMO connector.

CCS connectors still have a lot of catching up to do.

John

[Joeboy]

Off my soapbox, this looks promising..
https://wallbox.com/en_uk/quasar-dc-charger

On reading the detailed specs, it is only available with a CHAdeMO connector.

CCS connectors still have a lot of catching up to do.

John

I've sent a mail to manufacturer and I'll cut n paste the reply.Interested to hear if they have plans. As you say John. A long way to go including from Tesla. Oh no, the first crack in ownership 5 months before I get the car! Its such an.obvious implementation of the tech. Must be powerwall less sales/3 etc degradation risk and no actual financial profit to Tesla driving the apathy?

[Mart]

IMO Tesla should go for V2H or V2G, especially as they are promoting their Powerwalls and Autobidder for grid support as VPP's (virtual power plants). They have talked about minimising battery degradation, but the V2G trials with the Nissan Leaf seemed to show improvements in battery life due to the very low discharge rates (compared to driving) helping to balance the batts (at least I think that was the explanation).

Ignoring the S and X and performance models, even the 'lower' end TMY/3's have around 200kW to 300kW of power, so grid support at ~3kW would require around 1% of discharge v's foot to the floor acceleration, so I assume, the stress on the battery for V2H/G would be negligible.

Perhaps, and this is a guess, Tesla don't support V2G since they believe that they will solve FSD (full self driving). Given that all Tesla's are hardware capable of FSD, then there could be value in a robotaxi fleet, so the vehicles would spend less time, perhaps little time, stationary and charged, and willing to discharge? Again, I'm really guessing here.

However, a huge potential for V2G may lie in commercial fleets, such as vans, buses etc, that are parked up during the evening peak and can support the grid, before charging up over night when demand has fallen. Not really relevant to the UK, but the US has a vast fleet of school buses that tend to only operate in the morning and afternoon, and it seems that a BEV fleet can earn good money mopping up daytime excess PV generation, and supporting the late afternoon/evening peak demand.

The only thing I know for certain, is that things are going to change a lot, and in the near(ish) future.

[nowty]

For Joeboy, my TM3 has just had a software upgrade and you can now control the charging rate using the Tesla APP on your phone so you can use a cheap and dumb charger and still have easy control over your charging. This new function also applies to the TMY too.

[Joeboy]

For Joeboy, my TM3 has just had a software upgrade and you can now control the charging rate using the Tesla APP on your phone so you can use a cheap and dumb charger and still have easy control over your charging. This new function also applies to the TMY too.

That's good to know, thanks Nowty. What do you get with the car for charging? The leaf came with a 3 pin granny and a 7kW cable for out and about.

Been reading that mudflaps are pretty much essential to stop stonechips. I'll get myself a set for Christmas!

[Andy]

Just checked and they are offering me £11.5k trade in on the Leaf. That's nuts, will pursue on return home.

Its crazy. I traded mine in for 7k in March. Offered 6 from Tesla at the time. Now same model/age/milage is going for 13k on auto trader.

[Joeboy]

Just checked and they are offering me £11.5k trade in on the Leaf. That's nuts, will pursue on return home.

Its crazy. I traded mine in for 7k in March. Offered 6 from Tesla at the time. Now same model/age/milage is going for 13k on auto trader.

I received a mail this morning from we buy any car saying the price had went up again, dunno what to. Hopefully we can get a Tesla requote around Jan 22 and be in the 60 day window as the lad at Tesla Abz advised.