Lithium-ion batteries can be recycled

[Stan]

Canadian company on Munro Live.
Skip the first 8.10 minutes of intros.

[Oliver90owner]

Try this video:



At around 13 minutes onwards, the topic of recycling lithium ion batteries in the UK comes up. Interesting response from the chap.

[Oliver90owner]

Here is another, a bit less long winded than the Munro vid, demonstration of the actual physical process of mashing up EV batteries.

Same company, but the production line.

[Stan]

Their black mass outperforms virgin materials when made into new batteries!
This route is way more efficient than mining, a miner’s dream.
Can’t get enough old batteries to recycle in UK.
Thanks for those videos O90O.

[Colin Deng]

In China , the battery recycled business will be huge from now on
Maybe it worth a shot

[Swwils]

Black mass to battery requires huge amount of sulphuric acid and energy so no it's nowhere near as attractive or even sustainable as mining.

[AE-NMidlands]

Black mass to battery requires huge amount of sulphuric acid and energy so no it's nowhere near as attractive or even sustainable as mining.

Really? Sulphur used to be produced by the Frasch process, which must be pretty energy-efficient, nowadays apparently a by-product of oil production/refining... Then burnt in air, further oxidised and dissolved, also an economical method.

I don't think mining can ever be described as sustainable, but it might just be if you are scraping layers off the crust of salt lakes...

[Joeboy]

Black mass to battery requires huge amount of sulphuric acid and energy so no it's nowhere near as attractive or even sustainable as mining.

An awfully broad sweeping statement, any figures to back it up?

[Swwils]

The colbalt in some chemistries makes it profitable to recover, if it's a LFP cell then the lithium will always be cheaper, and less energy intensive to mine - LFP also no colbalt to boost the recovery value either.

We could recycle 100% of everything if we fired it into the sun, but again key is in the details and timeframe.

Many of these recycling schemes don't even need to run a TCLP. There is no way to lose! The nasty metals magically disappear! Conveniently avoiding the fact that "recycling "a battery requires so much more fossil energy than just making a new one.

Can you even imagine running a battery recycling operation? Who would insure you for fire? One incident and the entire benefit will be gone, ontop of making no profit unless subsidised.

The only successful recycling ever has been clean corrugated cardboard, aluminium and steel.

[nowty]

Seems to be a few companies doing it in the UK.

https://www.recyclusgroup.com/battery-recycling-copy

https://www.veolia.co.uk/press-releases ... g-plant-uk

https://eco-recycle.co.uk/lithium-batte ... -services/

https://www.lithiumbatteryrecycling.co.uk/services