Sunak to snooker Solar

[Bugtownboy]

Perhaps there should be a larger push to reduce food waste - nationally, we waste 15-20% of food - before we use the scapegoat of ‘wasting’ agricultural land on PV.

Admittedly, some waste may be used to produce electricity from Anaerobic Digestion, but that’s not an efficient way of producing electric.

What I don’t get, is the societal block at accepting we’re going to have to make some pretty significant changes to our lifestyles.

Politicians/MSM seem to want to do everything to maintain ‘normality’ without promoting long term solutions that would require us all to make the required level of lifestyle changes.

[Joeboy]

Yes, I’ve recycled some excess income from Ripple GF into the latest Energy4all Coop based offer, North Lincolnshire Community energy for PV on school roofs. Not a great financial return but its another carbon offset I can do and stick it into SWMBO name for tax purposes.

Cheap carbon free power for schools on existing roofs and they get the asset free after 25 years seems a noble enough cause.

https://energy4all.co.uk/nlce-share-offer/

We have did similar, ISA excess that would just sit there accumulating. Its better off on a school roof generating. Maybe this time next year i'll be able to utilise some Ripple excess from KH Ayrshire into a further RE project? Maybe even the unicorn that is 'An English New WT'?

All politicians are bought and paid for by vested interests. Its the world. Rishi is doing all he can for the FF mobs while he can. I don't get het up about that but i can do this.

It would be nice if the PV on school roofs stayed with a few of the kids and influenced them later in life, maybe even a parent or two.

[Ken]

You guys dont seem to get that this is pure politics plain and simple. If the majority of people say someyhing is bad (PV on land,EV, RE etc etc) as per that popular paper feeding them with confirmation bias that sells newspapers then yes they are going to align themselves with it. One thing you know about a politician is that they never say what they believe only what gets them the job a bit like people going for a job interview.

[Ken]

Yes, I’ve recycled some excess income from Ripple GF into the latest Energy4all Coop based offer, North Lincolnshire Community energy for PV on school roofs. Not a great financial return but its another carbon offset I can do and stick it into SWMBO name for tax purposes.

Cheap carbon free power for schools on existing roofs and they get the asset free after 25 years seems a noble enough cause.

https://energy4all.co.uk/nlce-share-offer/

Are you not concerned that they just run off with your money or they are charging too much particularly in these price dropping times.
Ken

[Mart]

You guys dont seem to get that this is pure politics plain and simple. If the majority of people say someyhing is bad (PV on land,EV, RE etc etc) as per that popular paper feeding them with confirmation bias that sells newspapers then yes they are going to align themselves with it. One thing you know about a politician is that they never say what they believe only what gets them the job a bit like people going for a job interview.

You're right, but I still find it absolutely heartbreaking. Listening to R2 right now, with Rishi on there pushing more BS - "I took the hard decision on net zero"

yes mate, we're in the middle of a cost of living crisis as a result of the high price of FF gas, and you want to slow down a move to RE and electrification. We've lost about 5% of leccy gen due to the restrictions on onshore wind, we may now lose another 7%, thanks to the CfD auction cutting the max bids for offshore wind.

Now he's claimed "people will no longer have to change their boilers when they don't want to" (I should switch the radio off), but we don't, the rule changes relate to the boilers replacement as and when we choose to do that, not a forced change for existing boilers.

I have no problem with politics, but they should be telling the truth, or at least close to it, not spreading division and lies, to trick Mr & Mrs Nice Couple into fearing the transition to cleaner, greener, and cheaper energy, transport, etc.


He's now stressing how crucial it is to change policies on smoking, as it's a massive risk to the young, and the population ... YES, F**K YES, but what about AGW, isn't that feckin important too?

I'm off for a lie down, some valium, and to watch some funny kitten and puppy videos.

[nowty]

Yes, I’ve recycled some excess income from Ripple GF into the latest Energy4all Coop based offer, North Lincolnshire Community energy for PV on school roofs. Not a great financial return but its another carbon offset I can do and stick it into SWMBO name for tax purposes.

Cheap carbon free power for schools on existing roofs and they get the asset free after 25 years seems a noble enough cause.

https://energy4all.co.uk/nlce-share-offer/

Are you not concerned that they just run off with your money or they are charging too much particularly in these price dropping times.
Ken

There is always that risk sending your cash to anyone.

Energy4all is a similar company to Ripple in that they help Coop companies raise funds and manage their projects.

There are some slight differences,

Returns are paid as dividends from the Coop's, as opposed to credits on your energy bill so you can spread your investments with SWMBO to reduce tax burdens.

Coops start themselves up locally and apply to Energy4all to raise and manage their projects, whereas Ripple buy up ready to run projects and set up a single (non local) Coop for each project.

Energy4all has been going a lot longer than Ripple and have many more successful projects running.
https://energy4all.co.uk/co-operative-locations/

Several on here bought into a hydro scheme through them that is now running (I kick myself for not investing).
https://hces.coop/kinlochbervie/

There will be another interesting project soon for the re-powering of an existing wind turbine in Northern Ireland.
https://www.drumlin.coop/

[Joeboy]

Yes, I’ve recycled some excess income from Ripple GF into the latest Energy4all Coop based offer, North Lincolnshire Community energy for PV on school roofs. Not a great financial return but its another carbon offset I can do and stick it into SWMBO name for tax purposes.

Cheap carbon free power for schools on existing roofs and they get the asset free after 25 years seems a noble enough cause.

https://energy4all.co.uk/nlce-share-offer/

Are you not concerned that they just run off with your money or they are charging too much particularly in these price dropping times.
Ken

There is always that risk sending your cash to anyone.

Energy4all is a similar company to Ripple in that they help Coop companies raise funds and manage their projects.

There are some slight differences,

Returns are paid as dividends from the Coop's, as opposed to credits on your energy bill so you can spread your investments with SWMBO to reduce tax burdens.

Coops start themselves up locally and apply to Energy4all to raise and manage their projects, whereas Ripple buy up ready to run projects and set up a single (non local) Coop for each project.

Energy4all has been going a lot longer than Ripple and have many more successful projects running.
https://energy4all.co.uk/co-operative-locations/

Several on here bought into a hydro scheme through them that is now running (I kick myself for not investing).
https://hces.coop/kinlochbervie/

There will be another interesting project soon for the re-powering of an existing wind turbine in Northern Ireland.
https://www.drumlin.coop/

I'll have a crack at the NI WT refurb when it comes up, cheers!

[Tinbum]

You guys dont seem to get that this is pure politics plain and simple. If the majority of people say someyhing is bad (PV on land,EV, RE etc etc) as per that popular paper feeding them with confirmation bias that sells newspapers then yes they are going to align themselves with it. One thing you know about a politician is that they never say what they believe only what gets them the job a bit like people going for a job interview.

All politicians are as bad as each other it doesn't matter what party.

The minority also speak for the majority.

I'm just glad I'm getting old.

My father was a JP and he resigned over 30 years ago saying the system was broken then and it's only got worse since.

[Tay]

You guys dont seem to get that this is pure politics plain and simple. If the majority of people say someyhing is bad (PV on land,EV, RE etc etc) as per that popular paper feeding them with confirmation bias that sells newspapers then yes they are going to align themselves with it. One thing you know about a politician is that they never say what they believe only what gets them the job a bit like people going for a job interview.

All politicians are as bad as each other it doesn't matter what party.

The minority also speak for the majority.

I'm just glad I'm getting old.

My father was a JP and he resigned over 30 years ago saying the system was broken then and it's only got worse since.

Same views as me on all but the last one

MP's are marginally better than bottom feeders, they look out for number one for the most part typically at the expense of their constituents when voting for party politics. You just have to look at my MP Tim Loughton.

[nowty]

Are you not concerned that they just run off with your money or they are charging too much particularly in these price dropping times.
Ken

There is always that risk sending your cash to anyone.

Energy4all is a similar company to Ripple in that they help Coop companies raise funds and manage their projects.

There are some slight differences,

Returns are paid as dividends from the Coop's, as opposed to credits on your energy bill so you can spread your investments with SWMBO to reduce tax burdens.

Coops start themselves up locally and apply to Energy4all to raise and manage their projects, whereas Ripple buy up ready to run projects and set up a single (non local) Coop for each project.

Energy4all has been going a lot longer than Ripple and have many more successful projects running.
https://energy4all.co.uk/co-operative-locations/

Several on here bought into a hydro scheme through them that is now running (I kick myself for not investing).
https://hces.coop/kinlochbervie/

There will be another interesting project soon for the re-powering of an existing wind turbine in Northern Ireland.
https://www.drumlin.coop/

I'll have a crack at the NI WT refurb when it comes up, cheers!

Looks like that NI WT re-powering is getting nearer as the date has recently been updated from Autumn 2023 which never happened to March 2024.
https://energy4all.co.uk/new-offers-com ... nd-energy/