I don't need this in my life, yet with the face-lift model.on the horizon and potential for another price slide I'll keep an eye on it. An awful lot of tech/car for... OK, admittedly, still an awful lot of money.
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95kWh Heater storage
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Does the Panamera depreciate any less?
There seems to be a lot of fuss about EVs depreciating at the moment, but I'm not sure if it's just the market in general is getting away from the Covid / chip shortage times back to the times when all mainstream cars dropped 40% in their first year, and were worth 35% of new at 3 years once the fleets had got rid of them, making them ideal 2nd hand purchases?
Have to say, I'd have a Taycan over a Panamera any day
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Ripple WB 200W
I don't think I would be able to stomach the insurance bill or the ludicrous service and replacement parts costs no matter how cheap they are second hand. I cannot begin to comprehend how much a replacement "turbo" unit would cost for the BEV, no idea at all
Moxi wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:12 am
I don't think I would be able to stomach the insurance bill or the ludicrous service and replacement parts costs no matter how cheap they are second hand. I cannot begin to comprehend how much a replacement "turbo" unit would cost for the BEV, no idea at all
Moxi
Absolutely agree Moxi. I scratched a long term itch and bought an aircooled 3.2 carrera (it didn't have a turbo either) about 16 years back. Kept it for 6 months, had a blast, realised a big service was on the horizon and punted it on to part fund the Turkish home buy. I was relieved to see it go as I didn't fancy a multi K service bill and tbh I couldn't fully swing the property purchase without something being sold.
Nonetheless I do miss it (and this was stupid of me), I said to SWMBO this morning. "what would you prefer love, a Taycan or a Mercedes Benz small RV for Europe". I really am an idiot sometimes...
Her choice (not bought but oh my, she forgets nothing).
Its green!
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42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
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Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
The whole "second hand EVs lose their value, proves no one wants them" line is ridiculous isn't it.
All cars depreciate eventually - we've just had this situation where for 10 years now, there basically wasn't a 2nd hand market for EVs as the original owners were keeping them from new - so lack of supply vs growing demand meant prices didn't fall.
Now, finally, we have a much increased supply, and people are now moving from their 1st, to their 2nd or 3rd EV and, oh, what do you know, supply is now available.
richbee wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:45 am
Does the Panamera depreciate any less?
There seems to be a lot of fuss about EVs depreciating at the moment, but I'm not sure if it's just the market in general is getting away from the Covid / chip shortage times back to the times when all mainstream cars dropped 40% in their first year, and were worth 35% of new at 3 years once the fleets had got rid of them, making them ideal 2nd hand purchases?
Have to say, I'd have a Taycan over a Panamera any day
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Moxi wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:12 am
I don't think I would be able to stomach the insurance bill or the ludicrous service and replacement parts costs no matter how cheap they are second hand. I cannot begin to comprehend how much a replacement "turbo" unit would cost for the BEV, no idea at all
Moxi
Absolutely agree Moxi. I scratched a long term itch and bought an aircooled 3.2 carrera (it didn't have a turbo either) about 16 years back. Kept it for 6 months, had a blast, realised a big service was on the horizon and punted it on to part fund the Turkish home buy. I was relieved to see it go as I didn't fancy a multi K service bill and tbh I couldn't fully swing the property purchase without something being sold.
Nonetheless I do miss it (and this was stupid of me), I said to SWMBO this morning. "what would you prefer love, a Taycan or a Mercedes Benz small RV for Europe". I really am an idiot sometimes...
Her choice (not bought but oh my, she forgets nothing).
Its green!
Ha ha, similar quandary here but more affordable, the wife saw a second hand Mustang EV locally and likes the metallic red colour and the spec and battery size - as well as the price, so we keep looking and telling ourselves its a bad idea, and then we keep looking.......... never owned a mustang, makes me come over all moody and bullet at the idea...............
Moxi wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:12 am
I don't think I would be able to stomach the insurance bill or the ludicrous service and replacement parts costs no matter how cheap they are second hand. I cannot begin to comprehend how much a replacement "turbo" unit would cost for the BEV, no idea at all
Moxi
Absolutely agree Moxi. I scratched a long term itch and bought an aircooled 3.2 carrera (it didn't have a turbo either) about 16 years back. Kept it for 6 months, had a blast, realised a big service was on the horizon and punted it on to part fund the Turkish home buy. I was relieved to see it go as I didn't fancy a multi K service bill and tbh I couldn't fully swing the property purchase without something being sold.
Nonetheless I do miss it (and this was stupid of me), I said to SWMBO this morning. "what would you prefer love, a Taycan or a Mercedes Benz small RV for Europe". I really am an idiot sometimes...
Her choice (not bought but oh my, she forgets nothing).
Its green!
Ha ha, similar quandary here but more affordable, the wife saw a second hand Mustang EV locally and likes the metallic red colour and the spec and battery size - as well as the price, so we keep looking and telling ourselves its a bad idea, and then we keep looking.......... never owned a mustang, makes me come over all moody and bullet at the idea...............
Moxi
We pass this way only once..
19.7kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN & DW
Ripple 7kW WT & Gen to date 19MWh
42kWh LFPO4 storage
95kWh Heater storage
12kWh 210ltr HWT.
73kWh HI5
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
Zoned GCH & Hive 2
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit trees
Moxi wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:12 am
I don't think I would be able to stomach the insurance bill or the ludicrous service and replacement parts costs no matter how cheap they are second hand. I cannot begin to comprehend how much a replacement "turbo" unit would cost for the BEV, no idea at all
Moxi
Absolutely agree Moxi. I scratched a long term itch and bought an aircooled 3.2 carrera (it didn't have a turbo either) about 16 years back. Kept it for 6 months, had a blast, realised a big service was on the horizon and punted it on to part fund the Turkish home buy. I was relieved to see it go as I didn't fancy a multi K service bill and tbh I couldn't fully swing the property purchase without something being sold.
Nonetheless I do miss it (and this was stupid of me), I said to SWMBO this morning. "what would you prefer love, a Taycan or a Mercedes Benz small RV for Europe". I really am an idiot sometimes...
Her choice (not bought but oh my, she forgets nothing).
Its green!
Does look amazing in that colour.....
Solar PV since July '22:
5.6kWp east/west facing
3.6kW Sunsynk hybrid inverter
2x 5.12kWh Sunsynk batteries
1.6kWp Hoymiles East/West facing PV on the man cave
Ripple DW 2kW
Ripple WB 200W
no idea at all 
never owned a mustang, makes me come over all moody and bullet at the idea............... 
