Old King Coal

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Joeboy wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:28 pm Can you get a good wheelspin out of it? :twisted:
unfortunately, yes... One called Blue Peter was almost destroyed: https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotive ... lue-peter/
The force of the initial slip caused the boiler to prime, carrying water over into the regulator valve and jamming it open. This allowed passage of steam through to the cylinders, perpetuating the slip and accelerating the driving wheels. When the driver attempted to wind the reversing gear back into mid-position to halt the slip, the force of the motion spun it into full-forward position, and the driving wheels reached a rotational speed of 140 miles per hour before the cylinder heads blew off and the motion disintegrated.
The driver suffered major injury to his arms, as a result of the screw reversing lever whipping around when he released it.
Are all coalmines in UK closed now?
Effectively yes, all closed now I believe, but there is a preserved/museum "footrail" mine in Apedale near Newcastle-under-Lyme which is run by the ex-miners who said that they have easy access to perfect coal (low in both sulphur and chlorine) but they can't find a way to dig or sell it legally!
https://www.apedale.co.uk/see-and-do/mine-tours/ is well worth going down - I have done both the extended (deep) tours but you need to be fit to get back up out of it! I shan't be doing it again...
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AE-NMidlands wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:56 pm
Joeboy wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:28 pm Can you get a good wheelspin out of it? :twisted:
unfortunately, yes... One called Blue Peter was almost destroyed: https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotive ... lue-peter/
The force of the initial slip caused the boiler to prime, carrying water over into the regulator valve and jamming it open. This allowed passage of steam through to the cylinders, perpetuating the slip and accelerating the driving wheels. When the driver attempted to wind the reversing gear back into mid-position to halt the slip, the force of the motion spun it into full-forward position, and the driving wheels reached a rotational speed of 140 miles per hour before the cylinder heads blew off and the motion disintegrated.
The driver suffered major injury to his arms, as a result of the screw reversing lever whipping around when he released it.
Are all coalmines in UK closed now?
Effectively yes, all closed now I believe, but there is a preserved/museum "footrail" mine in Apedale near Newcastle-under-Lyme which is run by the ex-miners who said that they have easy access to perfect coal (low in both sulphur and chlorine) but they can't find a way to dig or sell it legally!
https://www.apedale.co.uk/see-and-do/mine-tours/ is well worth going down - I have done both the extended (deep) tours but you need to be fit to get back up out of it! I shan't be doing it again...
Free coal ............ in our £10 sacks????
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They must be burning the last bit up. 230 MW AT 09:18.
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smegal wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:18 am They must be burning the last bit up. 230 MW AT 09:18.
And now, 11.19, 430 MW while curtailing wind output from East Anglia One and Greater Gabbard to the tune of 775 MW's.
Unless there is some other reason for them supplying only 50% of their potential while other wind farms nearby at similar or less wind speeds are generating at 99%!
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Off again at 15.35, RIP King Coal. I know it's not green but I did used to work in the industry.
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The decline of coal in the OECD countries - not just limited to the UK

https://ember-climate.org/insights/rese ... -its-peak/
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Buy your generators now :pot-stir:
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Just saw this chart from Carbon Brief about coal's decline in Germany.

You could extrapolate this graph out and it looks like the end of lignite burning in Deutschland could be as soon as 2030
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If they meet that date or even 2 or 3 years after that would be awesome, its really good to see some more positive figures for a change.

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That is impressive Dan. And if I'm remembering correctly, the spike in demand that was actually greater than the trough from covid, was due to Germany (and the UK) increasing FF generation to get France through a bad 18month period when about half of their reactors had to shut down for work due to safety concerns.

Take out the trough and peak, and the trend line does look very positive and consistent. :xx:
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