Tesla launches the V4 power cabinet...

[Yuff]

They need to get public charging costs below ICE to encourage take up first.
Then worry about charging speeds, all in my humble opinion.
Average public charging costs 800-1000% higher then IOG off peak I find pretty irritating

[Stinsy]

They need to get public charging costs below ICE to encourage take up first.
Then worry about charging speeds, all in my humble opinion.
Average public charging costs 800-1000% higher then IOG off peak I find pretty irritating

For people with private driveways, paying 80p/kWh once-or twice a year is perfectly fine. That icecream you buy at the beach will be a lot more than one you get at home too! And a £20 top up is nothing when rolled into the cost of the holiday.

It is the day-to-day charging for people who cannot charge at home that needs to be affordable. This really should be AC charging wherever the car is left overnight. And for that 3.6kW is plenty for most people. It can also be 50kW charging at gyms/supermarkets and other places. But critically it needs to be cheap. This is currently the missing part of the puzzle.

[Swwils]

I charge for free at work so don't really mind whatever the cost is on the motorway.

I do think the higher charge speeds are very beneficial, it just makes it easier and nicer. I guess it's very vehicle, regularly and journey specific.

In my experience the Tesla for all stations are full and 359kwh ones nearby will be empty because of pricing tho.

[Yuff]

They need to get public charging costs below ICE to encourage take up first.
Then worry about charging speeds, all in my humble opinion.
Average public charging costs 800-1000% higher then IOG off peak I find pretty irritating

For people with private driveways, paying 80p/kWh once-or twice a year is perfectly fine. That icecream you buy at the beach will be a lot more than one you get at home too! And a £20 top up is nothing when rolled into the cost of the holiday.

It is the day-to-day charging for people who cannot charge at home that needs to be affordable. This really should be AC charging wherever the car is left overnight. And for that 3.6kW is plenty for most people. It can also be 50kW charging at gyms/supermarkets and other places. But critically it needs to be cheap. This is currently the missing part of the puzzle.

Not sure I quite agree with the ice cream analogy as getting around I don’t put in the same category as a treat like ice cream, it’s more of a necessity generally, plus I’m not sure mr whippy is 1000% more than Haagen daas at Tesco
However your other comments are bang on point and really can it be that difficult to implement……and would help massively in the take up of EVs if that is what the bivernmnet wan to achieve
When we thr MY LR , public charging should be a thing of the past, plus it comes with a year’s free supercharging so I’d actually go out of my way to find a charger

[Mart]

The biggest benefits I think, will be seen in America where pick ups are more common, and especially towing stuff. So bigger batts, burning more electrons, and having to stop more often for recharges.

The Cybertruck seems to be able to charge at ~500kW (at low SOC) with the V4 chargers and cabinets with recent tests. Of course this is more an edge case, but significant enough to make a difference in the US, where trailers, boats etc do get towed longer distances.

Transport Evolved (one of the older EV youtube channels) towed a car and trailer across the US with an F-150 Lightning. I recall the efficiency dropped from around 2.5m/kWh to around 1.8m/kWh.

Personally, for cars, I think the Tesla V3 250kW chargers are more than enough for me, and unless low SOC, will be down towards the V2 chargers at 125kW anyway.

Horses for courses I suppose.