MVHR vent locations. Opinions...

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Sim_C wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:49 pm
Stinsy wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:32 pm Surely if it was 100% efficient with an inside temp of 20℃ and outside temp of 0℃ then the air from the inlet would be 10℃?
I agree, assuming the supply volume flow rate is the same as the extract.
It depends on the heat exchanger...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countercurrent_exchange is how things like robins send blood to their legs but don't get frozen solid by the returning chilled fluid.
However I guess most MVHRs will just be one heat exchange matrix and you would be lucky to recover 50%.

I have been mulling over MVHR and probably wouldn't bother with a comprehensive whole-house set-up. I might have a flow and return in our main lounge coming out of the 2 sides of the top of the chimney breast plus another pair in the main bedroom, i.e. the 2 rooms where we spend most time and exhale most moisture...
Then maybe one extract in the bathroom and a supply to the bedroom next to it, possibly another pair split between the 2 front bedrooms.
Not bothering with the kitchen as a) it would foul up the filters and heat exchanger b) it would be difficult to run the duct to it!
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AE-NMidlands wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:48 pm
Sim_C wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:49 pm
Stinsy wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:32 pm Surely if it was 100% efficient with an inside temp of 20℃ and outside temp of 0℃ then the air from the inlet would be 10℃?
I agree, assuming the supply volume flow rate is the same as the extract.
It depends on the heat exchanger...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countercurrent_exchange is how things like robins send blood to their legs but don't get frozen solid by the returning chilled fluid.
However I guess most MVHRs will just be one heat exchange matrix and you would be lucky to recover 50%.

I have been mulling over MVHR and probably wouldn't bother with a comprehensive whole-house set-up. I might have a flow and return in our main lounge coming out of the 2 sides of the top of the chimney breast plus another pair in the main bedroom, i.e. the 2 rooms where we spend most time and exhale most moisture...
Then maybe one extract in the bathroom and a supply to the bedroom next to it, possibly another pair split between the 2 front bedrooms.
Not bothering with the kitchen as a) it would foul up the filters and heat exchanger b) it would be difficult to run the duct to it!
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I too have been looking at it. I'd like a simple upstairs solution. One supply vent in the hallway and 2x extract vents in the bathroom and en suit. All the gubbins can go in the loft. However, buying such a system isn't as simple as I imagined!
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Thus is one example of an explanation of the HE efficiency and explains the different ways of measuring it: https://www.heatspaceandlight.com/cheap ... fficiency/

For reference ours is a Vallox DV145 (or Airflow DV145) but the older model than currently being sold - and yes it was bloody expensive even when i bought it :shock:
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Thanks all. Yep, I'm on board. Supply it is.

Regarding efficiency, the theoretical 100% maximum is temp in = temp out - it's a counterflow exchanger. Reality is of course very much not 100% efficient.

I chose to do it as was redoing the bathroom so had to put in some ventilation, had cupboard space and I know the house is under ventilated in winter. Windows are cheap to run but they don't get managed effectively and we're pretty exposed so "trickle" vents or windows cracked are huge over ventilation when it's windy. That and I put an mvhr in a porch/utility and it's been drying all our washing very effectively without any moisture issues so have felt quite positive about the idea. All pipework is in the loft apart from where I snuck downstairs via bathroom and now, bedroom cupboards. Waited around and found a s/h but never fitted one for about half price of new on eBay. They are a bit dear.

This one has really freshened bedrooms. Cooler too though so I've really dialed back the flow rates to just keep the room to acceptable measured CO2 and humidity levels by the morning. Flow rates make a massive difference to the former.
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