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Re: Next Storm

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Pretty good, 24hrs after ordering.

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Re: Next Storm

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How much charge do you have in the batteries? When do you plan a grid failure simulation?
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Stinsy wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:39 pm How much charge do you have in the batteries? When do you plan a grid failure simulation?
Chill man, just got it fitted! :)

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Switched off the goodwe and have run up a 1500W heater.

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Re: Next Storm

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Joeboy wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:26 pm
Chill man, just got it fitted! :)

Ha ha!

Given you're not yet on a toU tariff (if I've been paying attention), then there is no downside to keeping a decent amount of power in your batteries just for emergencies (as much as 70-80% is practical). Once you're on a ToU tariff you'll be charging during the cheap period and discharging the rest fo the time. There is the possibility that the outage will occur once your batteries are already depleted in which case you'll have none left to use in an outage. You could "save" some battery capacity for use in an outage, but that'd mean using more peak grid power than you need to...

BTW does the inverter have an adjustable cut-off voltage? If so what have you set it to?
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Thanks lads,
I have enjoyed the thought process and act of closing the loop on the system. It was a proper 'aha!!' moment yesterday and I've always liked them. :D

Had a bet with myself as to who'd point out the flat battery scenario (Stinsy, you win). 8-)

Can only plan so far within the limitations of the environmental bounty available (in this case Octopus&grid) and Winter solar...

Not sure what the cutoff voltage is if any as I went in the grand old tradition of VCR hook up and have not looked at the manual. I'm checking the top end tonight at 100% soc. Charge is ongoing. I'll run it down next couple of days and see what's watt. If I'm using this for real I'll be closely monitoring power in/out.

Quite invigorating this afternoon as the inverter arrived unexpectedly and the storm was also arriving and has been building while I've worked. Feel like a righteous dude protecting the family doing this job. Must be the caveman in me.

Hooked up the remote switch so it is closest to garage internal door. With fortune on my side I'll have fitted this and never need it. Upgraded the leads between inverter and battery too. Easy job with large positive outcome, come the day. Cheers! :D

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Re: Next Storm

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Marshman, thank you. Much appreciated. Good to see your gear. :twisted: I am pretty sure that when grid fails here the goodwe unit breaks a internal relay so I cannot backfeed to a linesman from my stack. Excellent point and worth repeating as we go forward.

I'll be honest and say that the implications of having a grid linked system with an independent system running alongside only arrived fully in my mind yesterday morning. I'll happily take the 100-250W generated by the 2nd system thru the Winter day if the grid is down. Suddenly all those low energy light bulbs make sense in a whole new way. 3rd flicker of lights just thru and the 4th...5th, 6th. Classic FM' s still playing and my rechargeable AA's are on s/by ready to bring the tunes! :)

Storm is building and so far six flickers but no full offgrid.. :twisted:
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Re: Next Storm

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Fully charged to 100% and stack lights are all off.
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Re: Next Storm

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Go on then...

Get your extension reel out...

I want a full test!
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Re: Next Storm

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Joeboy wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:57 pm Storm is building and so far six flickers but no full offgrid.. :twisted:
That's the only drawback with my whole house backup system, sometimes we get a bad flicker but no outage, its quite rare, but my Sunny Island is too sensitive and decides to cut the grid off and go full Off Grid mode so the lights go out for a couple of seconds. I don't lose the internet as that's on a UPS, but I have to reset, the clock on the cooker, the clock for the kitchen heated floor and reset the cat flap.
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