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A flash out of the blue for me which I then googled
"why was Hitler a vegetarian" !?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hit ... etarianism

I eat a lot of veg & less meat as I age, this isn't a stitch up, many of us are aware of societal talk that he was vegetarian (the wiki page is worth a read)
I wanted to understand the connection bearing in mind his brutality in that if he was passionate about animal welfare, found the slaughter horrific etc then how could he & his regime do what they did to humans? (for instance)

He was also anti vivisection. ..so yeah, a brain fog regarding his morality, never mind his mental state.
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Hitler was not a Vegetarian
He probably just would have shit his pants, if he ate too much meat
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billi wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:12 pm Hitler was not a Vegetarian
He probably just would have shit his pants, if he ate too much meat
It seems to be confirmed in numerous transcripts with other a-holes of his reich, billi, that for a period of years leading up to his death he was veggie, but with a few slips his weakness "apparantly" was in the form of Liver dumplings.
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Well , since you posted here about that myth , just out of interest , had to do some google research ...
As far as i read it now is that he had a health problem and needed to have some sort of a diet , but it was portrait as a role model of Discipline by propaganda activists.... ,

but basically he consumed non-vegetarian foods as Bavarian sausages, ham, liver, and game. .... , and for sure several girlfriends

His diet was more dictated by his weak digesting system

Came across that book ( well , not that i will read it now )...

https://books.google.de/books/about/Hit ... edir_esc=y
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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 11368.html
Dictators' Dinners: From Hitler's vegetarianism to Kim Jong-Il's Iranian caviar



In her Gourmet Cooking School Cookbook, published in 1964, the British chef Dione Lucas recalled when she worked in the kitchen of a Hamburg hotel in the 1930s. Under one recipe, she wrote: “I do not want to spoil your appetite for stuffed squab, but you might be interested to know that it was a great favourite with Mr Hitler, who dined at the hotel often.”

It is hard not to be fascinated by the food choices of political monsters, an area of learning where we can match our experience, our enthusiasms and dislikes, against people whom we otherwise take to be not-quite-human. So hurrah for Dictators’ Dinners by Victoria Clark and Melissa Scott, a digest (if that’s the word) of the fave dishes and top snacks of 20th-century autocrats. It’s part history and part cookbook, so you can astound your friends by serving them Fidel Castro’s sea turtle soup.

Mussolini disliked pasta, claimed mashed potato gave him headaches and loved rough-chopped raw garlic with oil and lemon (his wife, understandably, tended to sleep with the kids.) You discover that Stalin’s favourite chef, Spiridon Putin, was the current Russian President’s grandfather, and that the Man of Steel enjoyed six-hour banquets where the intake of semi-sweet Khvanchkara wine often left distinguished guests puking and incontinent. His favourite dish, chicken with walnuts and spices, is a sludgily off-putting grey mess.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin at a private dinner party to celebrate Churchill's 69th birthday
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin at a private dinner party to celebrate Churchill's 69th birthday
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Hitler’s favourite was petits poussins à la Hambourg, or baby pigeons stuffed with tongue, liver and pistachio nuts – and yes, that’s despite his being the world’s most famous genocidal vegetarian. He steered clear of meat, hoping for relief from his chronic flatulence, a condition for which his doctor injected him with, among other things, deadly nightshade, Dr Koester’s Anti-Gas Pills (rat poison) and “essence of Bulgarian peasant’s faeces”.

Colonel Gaddafi also had a problem with uncontrollable wind, the result of drinking camel’s milk. He sometimes used his condition as a weapon, to emphasise important points in interviews. A pal of Silvio Berlusconi, he liked Italian pastries and pasta dishes, but his first choice was a Libyan national dish, camel meat and couscous (with optional prunes to render it less revolting.)

Another Middle Eastern despot, Saddam Hussein, emerges as a fastidious chap, obsessed with cleanliness and portion sizes. The beef and lamb delivered to his 20 palaces (where they all made three meals a day, in case he showed up) had to be farm-fresh and trimmed of fat, the shrimps and lobsters leaping fresh, the olives sourced at the Golan Heights. He had a weakness for Western treats – Mateus Rosé, Old Parr whisky, boxes of Quality Street. When he was captured in 2003, they found eggs, honey and pistachio nuts in the fridge with a half-eaten tomato salad and a near-empty box of Bounty bars.

Several African dictators seem to have drawn accusations of cannibalism from enemies, but the truth about their eating habits is often mundane. Idi Amin (“I don’t like human flesh – it’s too salty for me”) ate as many as 40 oranges a day, believing them to be aphrodisiac, and, when living in exile in Saudi Arabia, loved pizza and Kentucky Fried Chicken. At state banquets, to wind up visiting heads of state, he served bee larvae and fried grasshoppers.

Most Revolting Snack award goes to Hastings Banda of Malawi, who favoured mopane worms (the large caterpillar of the emperor moth), dried and eaten as a snack like crisps. “Pluck the worms as they cling, feeding on the leaves on the mopane trees,” reads the recipe on page 78. “The worms will excrete a brown liquid on contact with human flesh…”

Most Foodie Dictator award goes to Kim Jong-Il of North Korea. His personal chefs jetted all over the world to buy Iranian caviar, Thai mangoes and Japanese rice cakes with mugwort. Live lobsters were airlifted on the Trans-Siberian Express. An army of women had to ensure every grain of rice was the same size, shape and colour. And his fugu (blowfish) chef reported that he “enjoyed raw fish so fresh that he could start eating it when its mouth was still gasping and its tail still thrashing”. It’s nice to find a deranged tyrant who actually behaves like one at suppertime.
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You may wish to assist wikipedia by means of an edit then as an effective way of countering it / putting out more detail Billi.
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Mr Gus wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:24 pm You may wish to assist wikipedia by means of an edit then as an effective way of countering it / putting out more detail Billi.

You are right , and i should read that Wiki Link in your post , more closer
...

wasnt aware that i in person can edit wiki :shock: , have to look into that procedure
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Yes it is a bit of faff, compared to how it used to be but once learned potentially very useful.
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