Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

94JDH
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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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Ronski wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:29 am
94JDH wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:42 amHi,

I have twin 5kW Gen3 Givenergy hybrid inverters, a 9.5kWh battery on each - this actually allows me to pump out a max of around 7.2kwh to the grid. Also looking at adding a further battery to each at some point, especially with the new 0% VAT incentive from February next year.
Do you normally import during saving session hours, so your baseline is positive? My baseline was slightly negative due to export on the 28 November, I've now stopped exporting after 16:30.

My system can export pretty much at 8kW but you seem to be getting higher rewards, I got £15.50 for the last session. Unfortunately missed out on one of the £4 kWh sessions due to meter issues which were thankfully resolved after a week of no electric readings.
The way to gain extra benefit this year is as you say, increase the base load - some are on IO and set a trickle charge from around 4pm and then you can charge batteries etc at the cheap rate.
It's a bit of a gamble as you don't know when the savings sessions are, but if you're normally charging batteries fully at night at the same rate it's a no brainer.
Another way is being lucky in having been accepted to two different companies at the same time and being paid twice, although I've read that's being now being revoked.
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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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It is all go!
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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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There was me all annoyed that I'll be out this evening so won't be able to have a rinse ahead of tomorrow's saving session!
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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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94JDH wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:04 am
Ronski wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:29 am
94JDH wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:42 amHi,

I have twin 5kW Gen3 Givenergy hybrid inverters, a 9.5kWh battery on each - this actually allows me to pump out a max of around 7.2kwh to the grid. Also looking at adding a further battery to each at some point, especially with the new 0% VAT incentive from February next year.
Do you normally import during saving session hours, so your baseline is positive? My baseline was slightly negative due to export on the 28 November, I've now stopped exporting after 16:30.

My system can export pretty much at 8kW but you seem to be getting higher rewards, I got £15.50 for the last session. Unfortunately missed out on one of the £4 kWh sessions due to meter issues which were thankfully resolved after a week of no electric readings.
The way to gain extra benefit this year is as you say, increase the base load - some are on IO and set a trickle charge from around 4pm and then you can charge batteries etc at the cheap rate.
It's a bit of a gamble as you don't know when the savings sessions are, but if you're normally charging batteries fully at night at the same rate it's a no brainer.
Another way is being lucky in having been accepted to two different companies at the same time and being paid twice, although I've read that's being now being revoked.
I did exactly that yesterday and my baseline has increased from Tuesday



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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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My baseline has been getting there slowly:

SessionBaseline
16 Nov 20231.019
29 Nov 20232.268
01 Dec 20232.667
05 Dec 20232.522
12 Dec 20232.715
14 Dec 20232.744
12x 340W JA Solar panels (4.08kWp)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
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LuxPower inverter/charger

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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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94JDH wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:04 am The way to gain extra benefit this year is as you say, increase the base load - some are on IO and set a trickle charge from around 4pm and then you can charge batteries etc at the cheap rate.
It's a bit of a gamble as you don't know when the savings sessions are, but if you're normally charging batteries fully at night at the same rate it's a no brainer.
Another way is being lucky in having been accepted to two different companies at the same time and being paid twice, although I've read that's being now being revoked.
Thanks for the reply, I'm on Flux, so being peak rate it could be expensive, and I don't particularly want to change tarrifs.
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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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Tomorrows on as well between 17:00 and 18:30

But, its a staggered session, Octopus has got the 17:00 to 18:00 slot, all other providers have got the 17:30 to 18:30 slot.

So expect some confusion.


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NATIONAL GRID NOTIFICATION - DEMAND FLEXIBILITY SERVICE.
DFS Tests have been instructed for Friday 15/12/2023 between 17:00 and 18:30. Times in GMT
The maximum demand reduction volume during this period is 650 MW.
This will be System Tagged.
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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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Stinsy wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:06 pm My baseline has been getting there slowly:

SessionBaseline
16 Nov 20231.019
29 Nov 20232.268
01 Dec 20232.667
05 Dec 20232.522
12 Dec 20232.715
14 Dec 20232.744
I thought my peak rate splurge on the 30th Nov must surely have worked its way out of the baseline for tonight but I forgot there has been 4 sessions in Dec which will not count for the baseline so my 30th Nov splurge is still valid for both tonight and tomorrow. 8-)
18.7kW PV > 109MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 26MWh generated
5 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 510 m3
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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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Had the app notification and just had the WhatsApp notification but surprised by this- how much time do they need?

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Re: Octopus saving sessions coming 1st Nov

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nowty wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:08 pm
Stinsy wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:06 pm My baseline has been getting there slowly:

SessionBaseline
16 Nov 20231.019
29 Nov 20232.268
01 Dec 20232.667
05 Dec 20232.522
12 Dec 20232.715
14 Dec 20232.744
I thought my peak rate splurge on the 30th Nov must surely have worked its way out of the baseline for tonight but I forgot there has been 4 sessions in Dec which will not count for the baseline so my 30th Nov splurge is still valid for both tonight and tomorrow. 8-)
I was planning a splurge today in anticipation of a SS tomorrow, but then we get one today!
12x 340W JA Solar panels (4.08kWp)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
5x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (12kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger

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