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Joeboy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:58 pm
Stinsy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:56 pm What is his roof like?
Oh Jesus, it's pitched at about 20 degs and its South facing... Although it's 2 storey so not somewhere I'd go.
Go for it, you'll be fine, I have a full body fall arrest harness you could use... :D
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Fintray wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:40 am
Joeboy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:58 pm
Stinsy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:56 pm What is his roof like?
Oh Jesus, it's pitched at about 20 degs and its South facing... Although it's 2 storey so not somewhere I'd go.
Go for it, you'll be fine, I have a full body fall arrest harness you could use... :D
If you get the bits any roofer will throw the panels up there as a Saturday morning foreigner. If I were you I'd run the solar DC cables to a hybrid inverter in your garage hooked up to your battery pack!

If you want to do the job yourself then I'd get scaffolding if I were you.
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Stinsy wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:59 am
Fintray wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:40 am
Joeboy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:58 pm

Oh Jesus, it's pitched at about 20 degs and its South facing... Although it's 2 storey so not somewhere I'd go.
Go for it, you'll be fine, I have a full body fall arrest harness you could use... :D
If you get the bits any roofer will throw the panels up there as a Saturday morning foreigner. If I were you I'd run the solar DC cables to a hybrid inverter in your garage hooked up to your battery pack!

If you want to do the job yourself then I'd get scaffolding if I were you.
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Stinsy wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:59 am If I were you I'd run the solar DC cables to a hybrid inverter in your garage hooked up to your battery pack!
Running multiple charging sources to one lithium battery pack has to be done carefully. You don't want both inverters being told by the battery BMS that the max charge rate is say 100A and 200A going into the pack. :shock:
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Is there a reliable way to check if a smart meter would work at a location? I’d like to get one fitted but currently on E7 and don’t want to lose off peak options. Not getting an EV for a while yet so can’t move to Octopus and take advantage of Go.
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SafetyThird wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:00 pm Is there a reliable way to check if a smart meter would work at a location? I’d like to get one fitted but currently on E7 and don’t want to lose off peak options. Not getting an EV for a while yet so can’t move to Octopus and take advantage of Go.
The "test" the SSE chap did was to see if he could get his mobile phone to get a signal in the meter box. He reckoned that if a phone got even 1 bar of signal then a smart meter should be able to connect OK. That's in the South, where the mobile phone network is used for the connection to DCC. I don't know how you could check if you're in the North where the lower frequency LRR system is used.
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SafetyThird wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:00 pm Is there a reliable way to check if a smart meter would work at a location? I’d like to get one fitted but currently on E7 and don’t want to lose off peak options. Not getting an EV for a while yet so can’t move to Octopus and take advantage of Go.
Octopus do a variety of tariffs including off peak and agile so you don't need an EV to move. I'm waiting for there to be some tariffs available once the Gov't sort out the mess they are creating.
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Tinbum wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:58 pm
Stinsy wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:59 am If I were you I'd run the solar DC cables to a hybrid inverter in your garage hooked up to your battery pack!
Running multiple charging sources to one lithium battery pack has to be done carefully. You don't want both inverters being told by the battery BMS that the max charge rate is say 100A and 200A going into the pack. :shock:
The easy way to do that is to have all the batteries connected electrically, but split into two pack electronically.

For example if you had 6x US2000 batteries you'd have them set up as 2x stacks of 3, from a data perspective each reporting to their inverter a max charge/discharge rate of 75A (25a per battery). However the batteries would really be in a single stack and would charge/discharge as one.
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SafetyThird wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:00 pm Is there a reliable way to check if a smart meter would work at a location? I’d like to get one fitted but currently on E7 and don’t want to lose off peak options. Not getting an EV for a while yet so can’t move to Octopus and take advantage of Go.
If you get a mobile phone signal a smart meter will work.
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Stinsy wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:06 pm
Tinbum wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:58 pm
Stinsy wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:59 am If I were you I'd run the solar DC cables to a hybrid inverter in your garage hooked up to your battery pack!
Running multiple charging sources to one lithium battery pack has to be done carefully. You don't want both inverters being told by the battery BMS that the max charge rate is say 100A and 200A going into the pack. :shock:
The easy way to do that is to have all the batteries connected electrically, but split into two pack electronically.

For example if you had 6x US2000 batteries you'd have them set up as 2x stacks of 3, from a data perspective each reporting to their inverter a max charge/discharge rate of 75A (25a per battery). However the batteries would really be in a single stack and would charge/discharge as one.
That doesn't really work unless you have both inverters of the same capacity, the same amount of PV on each and in the same orientation- otherwise you could get limitation in charging. Also more importantly what happens if you get one BMS reporting an error with its pack- the other inverter wouldn't get the message and would carry on charging.
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