Nowty Towers Vs UK Grid Storage
Re: Nowty Towers Vs UK Grid Storage
Which springs have you used? I have previously considered some for a battery enclosure rebuild.
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Re: Nowty Towers Vs UK Grid Storage
The 8mm (internal diameter) Yellow Extra Heavy Load ones, no tech spec on them but you cannot compress them with your hands. By pressing down on them on top of a weighing scale I can get about 40kg with only a couple of mm of compression. I reckon by winding them 1/3 or 1/2 way in its going to be close to the required 300kg compression force.
https://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/fastene ... s/c/231108
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Re: Nowty Towers Vs UK Grid Storage
Nowty,
I got your compression to be -10mm to deliver 300kg force using this calculator https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/spring and working on your springs being Indexa EHLY-16x51 YELLOW DIE SPRING - EXTRA HEAVY LOAD with 18 coils.
Based on what you mentioned from your scales test I have probably got the wrong spring but thought you might like to run the calculator yourself to check as its pretty intuitive.
Moxi
I got your compression to be -10mm to deliver 300kg force using this calculator https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/spring and working on your springs being Indexa EHLY-16x51 YELLOW DIE SPRING - EXTRA HEAVY LOAD with 18 coils.
Based on what you mentioned from your scales test I have probably got the wrong spring but thought you might like to run the calculator yourself to check as its pretty intuitive.
Moxi
Re: Nowty Towers Vs UK Grid Storage
Very interesting!
Repacking the old cells or have you bought some LF280k's?
Repacking the old cells or have you bought some LF280k's?
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Re: Nowty Towers Vs UK Grid Storage
There is another website which sells the same springs and gives the "Rigidity" as a number but no units so I've no idea. I just bought the strongest ones going that will fit on an 8mm threaded bar.Moxi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:55 pm Nowty,
I got your compression to be -10mm to deliver 300kg force using this calculator https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/spring and working on your springs being Indexa EHLY-16x51 YELLOW DIE SPRING - EXTRA HEAVY LOAD with 18 coils.
Based on what you mentioned from your scales test I have probably got the wrong spring but thought you might like to run the calculator yourself to check as its pretty intuitive.
Moxi
I guess I could put my weighing scales in as a temp battery and wind it up to the max scale of 150kg and then measure the spring length.

18.7kW PV > 110MWh generated
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7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 520 m3
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 32MWh generated
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Re: Nowty Towers Vs UK Grid Storage
A withdrawal from the Octopus VB plus 6 months of FITs income at the end of March will fund the extra green crap, although will likely arrive mainly blue in colour.


18.7kW PV > 110MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 32MWh generated
7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 520 m3
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 32MWh generated
7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 520 m3
Re: Nowty Towers Vs UK Grid Storage
Those 64mm long springs compressed to 55mm give a 150kg force.nowty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:03 pmThere is another website which sells the same springs and gives the "Rigidity" as a number but no units so I've no idea. I just bought the strongest ones going that will fit on an 8mm threaded bar.Moxi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:55 pm Nowty,
I got your compression to be -10mm to deliver 300kg force using this calculator https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/spring and working on your springs being Indexa EHLY-16x51 YELLOW DIE SPRING - EXTRA HEAVY LOAD with 18 coils.
Based on what you mentioned from your scales test I have probably got the wrong spring but thought you might like to run the calculator yourself to check as its pretty intuitive.
Moxi
I guess I could put my weighing scales in as a temp battery and wind it up to the max scale of 150kg and then measure the spring length.![]()
So I make that the 64mm spring needs to be compressed to 46mm to give a 300kg force.

NOTE - The above has been edited to correct my miss measuring.

Some folk might have thought I was joking.


I adjusted the nuts to make sure ALL springs were equal length at 150kg force before measuring.

Last edited by nowty on Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:05 pm, edited 3 times in total.
18.7kW PV > 110MWh generated
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7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
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40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 520 m3
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 32MWh generated
7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 520 m3
Re: Nowty Towers Vs UK Grid Storage
was that all four springs, individually compressed by 12mm to give 150kg force
Moxi
Moxi
Re: Nowty Towers Vs UK Grid Storage
Yes.
18.7kW PV > 110MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 32MWh generated
7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 520 m3
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 32MWh generated
7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
60kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 520 m3